Steve W2 Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Originally posted by Jon ERST S2 Tony - all the ones I've been loooking at have been auto's, for a manual your looking 12k mark, which IMO I'd probably rather an escort cossie but for 8k it's deffo worth it. These are a few currently on autotrader. *multi-photos L Reg Toyota Supra 3.0 RZ Twin Turbo Auto Keighley Trade CentrePetrol, Red, 60,000 miles. Climate Control, PAS, E/Windows, E/Mirrors, Central Locking, Alloys, Electric Seats, Electric Front Spoiler, Rear Spoiler, Traction Control, Fresh Import, Full tax And Test, . . . . (trade) £8,495 191 miles Escort Cosworth - way too under powered for me! Watch those crash repaired ones. If you get one from a trader for that price I would be VERY weary. I would definetly want to see documentation confirming auction grades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
far Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 It could be a grade 4.5 6 months ago and been warped up since being in the uk,I think its best to get it on a ramp and get it looked at properly....for that price I think it may need some tidying up cosmetically or mechanically,also take someone who knows there supes to have a butchers. I agree with Steve - cossies dont have enough power for your pounds.Would rather spend my cash on a supe anyday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Originally posted by Scooter Tony, i don't think all the sub £10K cars should necessarily be avoided. There's sometimes wealthy supra owners selling unmodified cars at approx 'Parkers guide' type prices just to get rid of it. Also IMO there are some cars at 12-13K that are probably no better but just 'owe' the seller more. Im with Scooter and far, just because its cheap doesnt mean its knackard. I think the best way is to take someone that knows the Supra and have a look, never know, you could pay 8K for something that most pay above 10K. But seriously it gets said so many times here, try both manual and auto first, 90% of people are usually very surprised by the auto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
400BHP Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Originally posted by Rob_B Better build quality.. ROFL.... What chump wrote that. Rob. *cough cough* underseal anyone?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Originally posted by 400BHP *cough cough* underseal anyone?? *cough cough* whoop your ass, nimble and fast J-spec wannabe....... What are you putting out at the wheels Chris...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Originally posted by Ashley Willis *cough cough* whoop your ass, nimble and fast J-spec wannabe....... What are you putting out at the wheels Chris...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
400BHP Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Originally posted by Ashley Willis *cough cough* whoop your ass, nimble and fast J-spec wannabe....... What are you putting out at the wheels Chris...... Oi Willis! Nimble? Fast?.... Nah! 550cc injectors anyone?? hehe:p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 So your name is false How do you find dragging all that lard..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Hello and welcome mate, don't listen to the lads who own the lesser J Spec models, there just jeleous cos they havn't got all the gadgets! UK Cars are alot rarer than the J Specs too, and in my opinion much better!!! Not that i have a UK Spec! lol Also with a UK car you can get full toyota service history, which in my opinion is essential on a car like this.... Exhaust, filter, de-cat and boost controller will get you 450bhp in a UK spec! Quality mate. then 100 shot of NOS and your talking 550bhp mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 oh yeah, UK specs come with 550cc injectors, whilst Jap ones are 440cc, why is that i wonder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Oh, and i forgot bigger brakes to stop the extra bhp! lol UK - 326bhp JAP - 280bhp Honestly though iv'e never been in a Jap TT, both are probably the same really, great cars mate! Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Paul you want to stog smoking that stuff mate.....come one we all know the JDM's are as quick as the UK's, it was just changed on paper to please the markets. Why do the UK's have 550 injectors, they need more fuel to pull all that lard, we only need little injectors cause we got quicker turbos, they may break easier but hey it only be your windscreen all the little bits will be bouncing off. Cause, get a face lift and you get UK brakes, the only thing you have over me apart from all the lardy lard is the injectors, but hey why would you want 550, might as well go for 6's or 7's...... Exhaust, filter, de-cat and boost controller will get you 450bhp in a UK spec! Never happen mate, your still to restricted with all your fancy EGR's and what not, trying to keep the planet green, something the sneaky jap lads arent worried about over there...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W2 Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Originally posted by Paul Laing Exhaust, filter, de-cat and boost controller will get you 450bhp in a UK spec! Quality mate. then 100 shot of NOS and your talking 550bhp And a blown up engine! Seriously Paul what power is your car making on the dyno? I didn't realise the baove mods get you 450 ponies, or is that at 1.5Bar;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
far Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Originally posted by Paul Laing UK - 326bhp JAP - 280bhp lmao @ 280 bhp - we know this has been proven incorrect both on dyno and the fact that in japan they said they would not produce any vehicle in exess of 280 bhp so thats what they wrote on the paperwork. There is one thing which is good about the uk spec though - the cheaper insurance - this is down to 2 factors 1) Slower car = less dangerous. 2) Less desirable than j_spec = less stealable 550 injectors ? ok the principle behind this is as follows : Hippo has bigger veins to pump blood into his fat buggered slow ass heart.UK car Cheetah has thinner veins to pump blood into its highly tuned sporty heart.J_spec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 450bhp easilly achievable mate!!! 550 injectors for more power mate and you can disable the EGT stuff no probs, think we all need to meet halfway in the country at a dragstrip to prove the UK specs are better. bigger brakes on a facelift, we had them in 1993!!!! come on catch up lads....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outatime Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Both are awesome cars, fact. But if you want to split hairs... Posted by Chris Wilson here... EVERY uk spec car I have driven has had far more lag than a J-Spec. Donning flame proof overalls I would never, ever buy a UK spec for myself, IMO the Jap specs drive better, have more power, and FAR less lag. UK specs seem to vary enormously, in my experience a "good" UK spec is about as quick as an average J-Spoec. A strong stock J-Spec is invariably faster than any UK stock cars i have encountered. Gearing may have a lot to do with it, as well as the AFM and turbo sizing in the UK spec cars. Ignition mapping will have a large say too, the UK cars are more retarded than J-Specs, probably to allow for our *rap fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Right, so you'd keep your 440cc injectors on if you had 800bhp? No you'd have much bigger injectors on for that power, which is why the UK spec has 550 ones, more power!!! bigg injectors, bigger brakes, tougher turbo's!!! Quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Originally posted by Paul Laing bigger brakes on a facelift, we had them in 1993!!!! come on catch up lads....... Thats why we didnt need bigger brakes, we that Japs said are feck that we're not worried, we just want to go fast as possible. Anyway we should be telling you to catch up........if you decat you wouldnt even hit anywhere near 1.5 like my J-spec does, so you had better not come round my way wanting a race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Originally posted by outatime Both are awesome cars, fact. But if you want to split hairs... Posted by Chris Wilson here... Haaa, Haaaaaaaa, RETARDED, just like their owners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 thats just one persons opinion.......we need to test these on track, on a drag strip!! My car was getting 13.4 with just a exhaust and de-cat, a VVTI was getting 13.9 best at elvington....we need more days like this eh? then maybe people will think differently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Originally posted by Paul Laing Right, so you'd keep your 440cc injectors on if you had 800bhp? No you'd have much bigger injectors on for that power, which is why the UK spec has 550 ones, more power!!! bigg injectors, bigger brakes, tougher turbo's!!! Quality Just because you have bigger injectors doesnt mean you put out more power, yuo may be throwing more fuel in, but you too restricted and laggy on the other side. So because you have a bigger knob, does that mean that you can do my GF better This is all friendly banter, just incase anyone was confused..... Nah, In fact Paul your a looser, get lost..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
400BHP Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Hey, i'm back in this.... UK Spec are definately better in standard trim, no point talking about mods here because thats not really subjective is it! So you have smaller turbos, smaller injectors, smaller brakes, and I wouldn't think the weight difference is that much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 set up a drag strip event next year, i'm sure the UK specs would come ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
400BHP Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Oi Willis! That bit about ya girlfriend, women always want a larger tool, but its not what you have, its the way you drive it, or in the case of a J spec, lagging behind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 course this is friendly banter, this isn't the skyline forum! lol dickhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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