V Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Probably a naive question??? Haven’t had my car for long (only been out 6 times:( ) When I brake quite hard, but not so the ABS cuts in, the ‘!’ warning light comes on and now the ‘hand brake/pad’ warning light comes on as well, which I don’t think it did to begin with. I take/hope this is just the brake pads? Any suggestions please? Got some piccys if you would like a look Many thanks Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted November 20, 2003 Author Share Posted November 20, 2003 1st pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gordon F Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 It's normally just that the brake fluid needs topping up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Those pads have loads of life left in them Have you checked your brake fluid level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted November 20, 2003 Author Share Posted November 20, 2003 Gordon F HISUPE Nope not yet, going to have a look now. back in 5 minutes:D Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted November 20, 2003 Author Share Posted November 20, 2003 Seems fine to me:) even with my bad eye sight from years of abuse:D Any other suggesions?? May be a garage job:( Got a years warranty with it:) Regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 the fluid resevoir lies. Put some extra in anyway, its not going to hurt and thats normally what the problem is. JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Yeah - mines right on the full marker and no probs, yours looks like its about halfway down - as branners says - stick a bit more in and see if it goes away! good luck matey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albundy68 Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 didnt the garage do a service on the car before you got it? bloody typical, n yup as above top up the fluid, it might just be that when youre flying about the levels are creaping down, causing the alarm bells to ring, does the light(s) stay on permanently or are they just on when hammering the brakes??? top her up n if its not sorted have a good look at the pads, if theyre ok, then you can get worried!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon F Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Looking at the colour of the fluid, it wouldn't be a bad idea to change all the fluid in the system anyway. It's not a massive job - maybe fit braided lines at the same time?? (PS - I thought all VVTI cars had the big brakes fitted as standard?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted November 20, 2003 Author Share Posted November 20, 2003 Branners, HISUPE, albundy68, Will have a top up then, or maybe all new fluid. albundy68 It doesnt stay on for that long, & is more prone to to happen when i've floored it & then had to stop (as you do:innocent: ) Gordon F Aren’t they the bigger brakes? i'll be really p1ssed off if theyre not. Took delivery of it and then went on holiday - a right pain in the ar5e. new toy and cant play with it:( It is supposed to have the bigger brakes. Piccy attached. the wheels are 17" FYI. Thanks again Stephen PS. Also youve got to keep the boot release lever pulled up to open the boot other wise it still latches. PPS. I cant get the standard toyota alarm to work properly - although its got anohter as well - just fitted. PPPS. All this & its just had its 3rd birthday!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 They ain't the big brakes mate Apols for the crap pic, but the big 'uns look like this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon F Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Originally posted by V PS. Also youve got to keep the boot release lever pulled up to open the boot other wise it still latches. I think it relies on the boot struts to lift it clear of the latch when you pull the lever. Does your boot stay up on it's own? If not, the struts may need replacing. Originally posted by V PPS. I cant get the standard toyota alarm to work properly - although its got anohter as well - just fitted. The standard j-spec alarm isn't Thatcham approved so you're probably best off forgetting about it and fitting one that your insurance company will be happy with. PS. Where in Suffolk are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted November 20, 2003 Author Share Posted November 20, 2003 HISUPE Bollox:( I'll be on the phone then. Gordon F The boot holds itself very well. even if i open it with the key it has to be pushed up whislt the key is turned. it doesnt spring up though. It came with the standard jap toyota alarm. you push the button once and it locks, pusg it again and it beeps at me - so i presume its armed?? but doesnt seem to function. I have fitted a CAT 1 alarm as well now, but i think 2 alrams are better than 1? You have PM Gordon Thanks to all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Bummer mate As for the boot - it could be perished boot rubbers, as these provide a tight shut and also something to pop the lid up when you pull the lever/turn the key. Kinda hard to describe but they are about a tenner from toyota and are on the sides of the boot (not the hatch itself) just up from the lights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Cargill Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Originally posted by HISUPE They ain't the big brakes mate The disks also look like they have seen better days. Hard to tell from a piccy though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 I have had warning lights flash under heavy braking with a fluid level higher than yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Stephen, my boot latch does the same, boot rubbers and struts are fine. I think it may be a cable adjustment / latch problem. Can be a PITA but its not annoyed me enough for me to look into it as yet. I'll let you know if I sort it in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Hi guys, Not trying to hijack this thread or anything but seemed a good place to ask: My front pads are RED in colour. Can anyone identify them or suggest a manufacturer with red pads? UK size, i know....very poor untechnical description but just thought i'd try ya?? Gotta replace my front pads very soon you see............ Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Dan Sounds like EBC Redstuff mate - I had them on my scoob, utter shite and I'd never use EBC on a performance car again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Cargill Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 Originally posted by HISUPE Dan Sounds like EBC Redstuff mate - I had them on my scoob, utter shite and I'd never use EBC on a performance car again Well said that man. I tried Green Stuff for a little while. Not good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted November 21, 2003 Author Share Posted November 21, 2003 Thanks for all your replies. Discs - yes its a right bugger. The discs are a little scored. When i saw the car in Japan (photos) they said it had the Jap brakes, but when it came in the country they said it had the UK brakes? .......... fishy??? going to have a look at the original photos. Are all the VVTi supposed to come with the bigger brakes as standard? Going to have to look into this some more. The boot rubbers seem ok & my first thoughts was the catch. I dunno.... i'll take it into a garage and let them do the buisness under the warranty i suppose and ask if the brakes look like been changed. I've heard mixed reports about the EBC stuff. i used to have the green on my prelude which was a damn sight better than the standard stuff. i know someone who uses the red on a 200sx who seems to get on well with once there up to temp, but its 200kg lighter. Will post on any findings:) Regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 I got through 2 sets of EBC greens and turbogroove discs on my scoob - steady driving after fitting, by the time I'd got home they'd warped So I went back, had a new set of discs/greens fitted, took it even easier - still warped by the time I got home - so their own discs couldn't even cope with their pads - not a good sign I then went back again (this was Northampton, I live in Guildford, quite a lot in petrol this! ) and this time they fitted the redstuff with their discs. Now the good news here was they didn't warp. However, they also didn't work AT ALL from cold, and after a couple of heavy breaking (bear in mind this is their track pad) would fade to crap, so they were next to useless in any condition. EBC are cheap - to me that would say it all, why spend thousands on a car, pay money for good tyres etc and then put cheap ass brakes on, you get what you pay for that is for sure. I went on to Ferodo DS2500 which were flipping ace in comparison to the EBC, no contest, but then, they were twice the price. Comes back again to you get what you pay for. I *might* consider EBC on a warm hatch, but on anything fruity? you must have a death wish!!!!! BTW - I don't rate/like 'em in case you hadn't guessed I'm also not alone in this, several other scoob owners I talked to on scoobynet had experienced exactly the same thing, the majority hated them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 And after all that - good luck with sorting ya motor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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