My Mates New Toy

[Spardz]

Hi,

 

Nathan here, Terrible turners mate. Just to give some food for thought this is a very nice mod which although quite pricey will really put a lot of other cars to shame.

 

http://www.scienceofspeed.com/products/engine%5Fperformance%5Fproducts/NSX/ScienceofSpeed/custom%5Fengine%5Fprogram/custom%5Fengine%5Fprogram/

 

Check the bottom of the page for the largest conversion.

 

Also check out the power figures at the bottom of the link below:

 

http://www.scienceofspeed.com/special%5Fprojects/3.8L%5Fassembly%5FPart2/

 

Hmmmm . . . I can feel a hole being burnt in my pocket!

[terribleturner]

Hey Nathan, you alright. Yeah i think you should do it DO IT DO IT DO IT

[Spardz]

Yeah not too bad. Very tempted!

[Guest dee_rz]

i must be the only person that doesn't like the styling of an nsx sorry guys, too square it's trying to go for that sleek look but at the same time is a bit square cut, not particularly quick either, they do late 13's at pod stock at about 100 mph at the terminal, almost bought one myself, test drove and didn't like it a great deal they have i was told by my honda dealership 276bhp but with less torque than someone quoted, thats the 3.0l one there (the same as i drove which has 191 ft bl of torque not the 3.2 newer version, yes lighter but a great deal down especially in torque and that kills it, still great car, bpu or stock supra will win well enough on a 1/4 mile and on road rolling the nsx wouldn't stand a chance

[Darren-K]

well,.ynow how that guy transformed his ferrari into a supra ( the yellow one)

why not get someone to build a sort of NSX-SUPRA

[SkyJawa]

i must be the only person that doesn't like the styling of an nsx sorry guys,

 

I do think they look good, but the rear/rear lights spoil it for me IMHO.

[Guest ctrlaltdelboy]

@ dee_rz - the NSX's raison d'etre is not to perform on the drag strip or on the rollers - no-one would buy an NSX if scoring in these areas were their priority. As a result, as you quite rightly pointed out, when used in such situations the NSX does not score highly compared to cars better suited such as Supras or Skylines.

 

where the NSX does excel is in the environment for which it was designed - the racetrack.

 

you would not expect a Mini to do a good job of transporting a football team to the match, you would not expect a basket of celery to fuel a boxer for a championship bout - these are not the tools for the jobs concerned, we all know this, and therefore such statements are rather pointless. The same applies to this car.

 

for the match, use a bus

for the fight, eat steak, eggs etc

for the dragstrip, use a Supra

for the track, use an NSX

 

if you follow these simple formulae you will get the best results.

if you use the wrong tools for the job - the results will be less satisfactory.

 

I would not be deluded enough to challenge you at the strip in my NSX, and I daresay you would not want me to embarrass you in a circuit challenge (although I'd be happy to if you insist )

 

by the way, figures measured at the wheels for 3.0 manuals are between 180-195 lb ft and 245-255 bhp. (clearly flywheel figures would be higher, but why measure something you do not have the use of?)

 

more performance details here

[Guest dee_rz]

@ dee_rz - the NSX's raison d'etre is not to perform on the drag strip or on the rollers - no-one would buy an NSX if scoring in these areas were their priority. As a result, as you quite rightly pointed out, when used in such situations the NSX does not score highly compared to cars better suited such as Supras or Skylines.

 

where the NSX does excel is in the environment for which it was designed - the racetrack.

 

you would not expect a Mini to do a good job of transporting a football team to the match, you would not expect a basket of celery to fuel a boxer for a championship bout - these are not the tools for the jobs concerned, we all know this, and therefore such statements are rather pointless. The same applies to this car.

 

for the match, use a bus

for the fight, eat steak, eggs etc

for the dragstrip, use a Supra

for the track, use an NSX

 

if you follow these simple formulae you will get the best results.

if you use the wrong tools for the job - the results will be less satisfactory.

 

I would not be deluded enough to challenge you at the strip in my NSX, and I daresay you would not want me to embarrass you in a circuit challenge (although I'd be happy to if you insist )

 

by the way, figures measured at the wheels for 3.0 manuals are between 180-195 lb ft and 245-255 bhp. (clearly flywheel figures would be higher, but why measure something you do not have the use of?)

 

more performance details here

 

 

sorry you were saying ????????????? have a look at that thing call the lap time, and yes i'd challenge you to a race at a track, you shouldn't be deluded that a big 1510kg weight supra doesn't handle very well as i said i have driven one twice and the supra is the better handling car, it's still a damn good car and fairplay to you the vid below is of stock for stock cars all driven by pros, great vid, rwd and 4wd in there too

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1796683639818272062&q=supra&pl=true

[Guest ctrlaltdelboy]

interesting video that one - I guess that proves it then; I've completely wasted my money.

 

take a look at this one

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2949919259744802395

 

it features an NSX-R, Murcielago, Gallardo, 360 Modena, 911 Turbo and M3 CSL

 

I can't imagine for a moment why this supercar battle has omitted to feature the all conquering Supra - perhaps the likes of Lamorghini, Ferrari etc did not want the truth to be known and refused to allow their flagships to be upstaged by it?

 

anyway, it's a good watch that shows the NSX ® competing rather impressively at the highest level (obviously, not quite as high a level as if a Supra were included though).

 

it's also interesting to note the drivers

 

Gan drove the GT-R in the first video, and the NSX-R in this one - and was stonking in both.

 

look forward to seeing you at a circuit sometime, to show you how a truly quick car goes round....

[Guest dee_rz]

what the hell are you on about, i don't mean to be offencive, stop taking things to seroius for goodness sake, the nsx-r is a totally different car to the normal nsx, did i say you bought the wrong car......NO don't put words in my mouth, i had 20k to spend on a car and i bought a supra and since then i have spend an extra 5 k on the supra in one year whats your point get off your high horse fella, i will look out for you , can you not except that the supra laps round a ciruit faster than your nsx, i have posted a stock for stock vid of both cars with pros driving (not nsx-r which you haven't bought) and the supra beats it by about 2 seconds which is a clear win and i can tell you for a fact a supra out handles a nsx it's a fact doesn't mean i don't like the car atall i drove it and found the supra better which appears apparent on the vid too and with that said i doubt you'd take a supra at a track in a nsx i'm sorry fella i don't not what else to say i'm not going to lie, but if you said you have a stock r32 gtr v a stock supra i'd say the gtr 32, i'll be honest, noble m12 v stock supra win to noble etc, i'm not afraid to admit that there are better cars for track but the nsx is not one of them sorry won't be able to help you on that race at the track either you have to find a stock supra by the time my car see's a track it'll be 600-650bhp@ the wheels so not worth it (well not a fair test to what i have said) now at moment i have bpu with about 420ishbhp still not fair test, please don't take this so offensely but you seem to be another person who under rate's are big heavy supras is a supra the best car around handling and all...... hell know i can think of many cars that'll beat it but it's pretty damn good i'll give it that and so many people underestimate what it can do............sorry to rattle on

[GeordieSteve]

I think your sadly mistaken if you think the Supra can't keep up with the big boys on the track

 

However... I have considered turning my Supra in for an NSX.... and I've just asked for some NSX prices tonight as I'm thinking about doing so in the next couple of months

[Guest ctrlaltdelboy]

the differences of the NSX-R over a standard NSX are:

a bit more power

a bit less weight

stiffer suspension

 

my own NSX has all of the above enhancements in greater measures than the NSX-R - call it NSX-RR

 

what are the differences of a Supra RZ over standard?

 

nice way to back out of your challenge BTW - very slick

 

I'm not offended or on a high horse by the way - if I wrote in a style that suggested that I apologise.

[Guest dee_rz]

the differences of the NSX-R over a standard NSX are:

a bit more power

a bit less weight

stiffer suspension

 

my own NSX has all of the above enhancements in greater measures than the NSX-R - call it NSX-RR

 

what are the differences of a Supra RZ over standard?

 

nice way to back out of your challenge BTW - very slick

 

I'm not offended or on a high horse by the way - if I wrote in a style that suggested that I apologise.

 

rz is a stock j spec supra nothing different, i'll appologuise also and sorry if i rubbed you up the wrong way, not backing out would love to do this, so if your not stock either that sounds fair, stay in touch or tell me when you go to a track and we can arrange something, will have to be june or later at a guess

[Gazboy]

what the hell are you on about, i don't mean to be offencive, stop taking things to seroius for goodness sake, the nsx-r is a totally different car to the normal nsx, did i say you bought the wrong car......NO don't put words in my mouth, i had 20k to spend on a car and i bought a supra and since then i have spend an extra 5 k on the supra in one year whats your point get off your high horse fella, i will look out for you , can you not except that the supra laps round a ciruit faster than your nsx, i have posted a stock for stock vid of both cars with pros driving (not nsx-r which you haven't bought) and the supra beats it by about 2 seconds which is a clear win and i can tell you for a fact a supra out handles a nsx it's a fact doesn't mean i don't like the car atall i drove it and found the supra better which appears apparent on the vid too and with that said i doubt you'd take a supra at a track in a nsx i'm sorry fella i don't not what else to say i'm not going to lie, but if you said you have a stock r32 gtr v a stock supra i'd say the gtr 32, i'll be honest, noble m12 v stock supra win to noble etc, i'm not afraid to admit that there are better cars for track but the nsx is not one of them sorry won't be able to help you on that race at the track either you have to find a stock supra by the time my car see's a track it'll be 600-650bhp@ the wheels so not worth it (well not a fair test to what i have said) now at moment i have bpu with about 420ishbhp still not fair test, please don't take this so offensely but you seem to be another person who under rate's are big heavy supras is a supra the best car around handling and all...... hell know i can think of many cars that'll beat it but it's pretty damn good i'll give it that and so many people underestimate what it can do............sorry to rattle on

 

No offence Dee, but that's crap. I have raced an NSX around the Brunters full curcuit- 4.5 miles including a near 2 mile runway section- I was toast, utterly arse raped. My car has 250rwhp so it's similar to a stock NSX's output. These things were built to corner.

Yes I've seen the vid- I was as suprised as hell as I thought the NSX was going to slaughter the others.

[dangerous brain]

If a supe has had suspension mods then it will be a better handling car. Its the handling more than anything that loses it ground against an NSX. Its in the power stakes for money that the supe will eventually win. To get a decent NSX you are looking at a 93 plate for £15k ish start off. £15k in a supe will get you the last of the non vvti TT's (so about a late 96 early 97)a serious suspension upgrade pack and at least BPU upgrades. The supe at this point still won't really be on a level playing field on a track methinks but its 3-4 years newer and in virtually every straight line it'll be hands down winner. Stick another £10k on both cars and I guarantee that the supe will be ahead of the NSX in every aspect at this point. So what it really boils down to is how much cash you want to or can spend.

 

 

Now if you've got money

 

http://www.reaction-image.net/albums/album819/Copy_of_IFOsport_032.jpg

 

Looks like an new model NSX thats had a lot of steroids

[Guest dee_rz]

No offence Dee, but that's crap. I have raced an NSX around the Brunters full curcuit- 4.5 miles including a near 2 mile runway section- I was toast, utterly arse raped. My car has 250rwhp so it's similar to a stock NSX's output. These things were built to corner.

Yes I've seen the vid- I was as suprised as hell as I thought the NSX was going to slaughter the others.

 

 

ok if you say so but i have driven one twice (in which i'm saying the supra handled better), so you've seen the video too, then how is your point valid???? stock cars all pro driver i really don't see how you can argue it, it's at the same track at the same time, i've heard other pro drivers say the same thing about the nsx, but anyway each to there own, i won't say no more on this topic, sorry to offend

 

that gold nsx (new shape i prefer imo) is gorgeous

[Bobbeh]

interesting video that one - I guess that proves it then; I've completely wasted my money.

 

take a look at this one

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2949919259744802395

 

it features an NSX-R, Murcielago, Gallardo, 360 Modena, 911 Turbo and M3 CSL

 

I can't imagine for a moment why this supercar battle has omitted to feature the all conquering Supra - perhaps the likes of Lamorghini, Ferrari etc did not want the truth to be known and refused to allow their flagships to be upstaged by it?

 

anyway, it's a good watch that shows the NSX ® competing rather impressively at the highest level (obviously, not quite as high a level as if a Supra were included though).

 

it's also interesting to note the drivers

 

Gan drove the GT-R in the first video, and the NSX-R in this one - and was stonking in both.

 

look forward to seeing you at a circuit sometime, to show you how a truly quick car goes round....

 

Its true that the NSX-R is an awesome track car, as are the Type S and Zero models, but the one this guy has bought is a bog standard model which is in a totally different league to the Type R models, and would get eaten by a Supra on the track and motorway.

[dangerous brain]

One of the reasons I had a look into getting an NSX as I have always wanted one. I was dismally dissapointed with them when I sat in them and looked round them at JAE last year. I'm not being funny but the parts on them were showing their age as unlike supes most bits are still original (great in a classic car not so great in a performance motor) and as such are gonna be approaching tired. Next to none of them had any more up to date additions. The interiors were nice but very cramped. I guess its true sports car material but unfortunately its 10 year old sports car and GT cars have come on so much in 10 years that its now outdated (if that makes any sense). Where the supra still holds amongst its modern peers the NSX seems to me to struggle. Its update was 5 years too late for its survival. Theres too much power and variety available in the NSX's price range for it to still be a winner as well.

[Gazboy]

Dee- no hard feelings at all, and yes I was very surprised at the vid, I genuinely thought the NSX was going to clean up. I can only go by my experiences of my stock GZ in good nick (power tested a few days later, new brakes, new front shocks, rear shocks good, good tyres and it was serviced the Friday before) getting a pasting by a stock (save a catback) 94 5sp NSX 3.0 at a fast circuit. Granted Steve has balls like melons and a truckload of talent, but the better car won.

[Guest dee_rz]

Its true that the NSX-R is an awesome track car, as are the Type S and Zero models, but the one this guy has bought is a bog standard model which is in a totally different league to the Type R models, and would get eaten by a Supra on the track and motorway.

 

was gonna mention you actually as i know you can drive the sup how it should be driven

thank you bobbeh so agreed but anyways all is good, glad that's cool too gazboy and glad you didn't take that badly, i know alot of you guys know your beans but we all have are opinions and it's great to have threads like theses even if they get a little heated sometimes

[Bobbeh]

Hey, I'm no track master

 

That vid you posted shows a normal spec Auto NSX and a stock manual NSX vs a RZ Supra.... the Supra wins easily.

 

Vs the new NSX-R the Supra would be slaughtered, but that car weighs nothing and is competing with the likes of the GT3 Porsche RS etc as a pure track enthusaists car and hence why it costs so much money.

 

Also speaking of Gan San, he also commented that he thought the S2000 was quicker around the Ring than the NSX! Now does that make you want go get an S?