Jake Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I was thinking of it like this Gaz: To me, being overcome by the smoke and dying while you were unconcious would be preferable to 10 seconds of terrifying freefall and being smashed to a pulp on the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I was thinking of it like this Gaz: To me, being overcome by the smoke and dying while you were unconcious would be preferable to 10 seconds of terrifying freefall and being smashed to a pulp on the ground. I think being overcome by smoke is fairly terrifying itself- you're choking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 This truely was a day that will stick in most peoples memories so full of massive emotion. We can not know what it was like up there, but with all that fuel from a plane with full tanks the heat must have been incredible. Who knows what any of us would have done in the circumstances. It is easy to sit here safe and breathing clean air to say there is no way you would jump. There were alot of people in there, in so many different rooms, who knows, what they could hear and smell. I dont know whether I would jump or fry. I think the jump option would be quicker, more frightening, but less pain. Those poor individuals who jumped must have needed huge courage. The other haunting memory I have must be from some time later, when the was a vieio of Binbag and his pals, they were sat around with huge smiles on there faces, offering unspoken congratulations to each other for a job well done. Both images will haunt me for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun. Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I think Time magazine printed a picture of a young couple holding hands as they jumped.... the sort of image that stays with you forever I have never heard or seen that. That is shocking. Just lost for words on that thought. Shaun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaoriFan Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 i could only watch a couple of minutes of the programme last night, but it leaves a lasting impression on you, when you see the actual photos of people having to face really no choice at all, whether to stay or jump. not sure if anyone has seen the 9/11 documentary (produced by the two French brothers) which followed a ladder crew around. They were filming a documentary on the Fire Department at the time of 9/11. i do not know if they showed any footage of people actually jumping, rather than just in photos in last nights documentary, but in the French one you followed the battalion chiefs inside the buildings, and you could hear the people that jumped landing on the ground. that really brought it home to you the personal tragedies suffered that day. anyone should read the book, Last Man Down, for a first hand perspective of the days events. Then over time how sad it was seeing families etc, placing photos and 'missing' messages at Ground Zero. back then i could get sat feed direct from the USA and watched the Today show on NBC as it started 7AM EST (12 noon here). the total shock when they cut to a live feed of what was happening, and the thought it was a terrible accident until they saw second aircraft, later the pentagon and then realised it was a terrorist attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted March 17, 2006 Author Share Posted March 17, 2006 Your had a Supra in Sept 2001? The same one you have now? nothin escapes you Jake! Your quite right. Must have been the Astra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew7 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 If you worked in a building like that every day, wouldn't you just have to keep a long rope in your locker? Didn't see any. Think we all trust technology too much these days....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted March 17, 2006 Author Share Posted March 17, 2006 would need to be a VERY long rope unless your going to hang yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 nothin escapes you Jake! You quite right. Must have been the Astra. does everyone have an Astra before they 'graduate' to a Supra...?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Truely shocking events. I also remember it like yesterday, the internet ground to a halt, I left work and went home to watch it on BBC1. I'll never forget the image of the second plane flying into the South Tower - it was sureal, like something out of a movie - just can't comprehend it happening or what the people thought in the last few seconds as they saw it about to hit them - or what the people on the planes themselves must have gone through A truely shocking day, showing what a pathetic race us Humans still are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew7 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 would need to be a VERY long rope unless your going to hang yourself 412 metres if you were right on the top floor............................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub_Culture Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Wouldn't you have a heart attack before you hit the floor from that sort of drop? Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Didn't see it, didn't even know it was on. WOuld have been interesting, shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I don't watch much TV as its usually a pile of tripe, but this was such a thought provoking documentary. I wonder how guilty the journalist felt for naming Norberto Hernandez as the Falling Man (his family were religious and to commit suicide was to commit to Hell, the idea he jumped completely screwed them up) when it turns out it probably wasn't - did the journalist even think about what he was doing to them, in the name of a story? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew7 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 did the journalist even think about what he was doing to them, in the name of a story? Do they ever?............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npotts Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 A very sad documentary. I remember watching the events live on Sky News, watching the 2nd plane hit, and then seeing images of people jumping as it happened. I will never forget that awful day. It doesnt seem like 5 years ago.... Reading this thread and thinking about that program last night doesnt half make me feel sad.... Those ba*tards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Do they ever?............. True Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 i could only watch a couple of minutes of the programme last night, but it leaves a lasting impression on you, when you see the actual photos of people having to face really no choice at all, whether to stay or jump. not sure if anyone has seen the 9/11 documentary (produced by the two French brothers) which followed a ladder crew around. They were filming a documentary on the Fire Department at the time of 9/11. i do not know if they showed any footage of people actually jumping, rather than just in photos in last nights documentary, but in the French one you followed the battalion chiefs inside the buildings, and you could hear the people that jumped landing on the ground. that really brought it home to you the personal tragedies suffered that day. anyone should read the book, Last Man Down, for a first hand perspective of the days events. Then over time how sad it was seeing families etc, placing photos and 'missing' messages at Ground Zero. back then i could get sat feed direct from the USA and watched the Today show on NBC as it started 7AM EST (12 noon here). the total shock when they cut to a live feed of what was happening, and the thought it was a terrible accident until they saw second aircraft, later the pentagon and then realised it was a terrorist attack. yeah i remember that bit the sickening thuds, so sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I would definitely have jumped, choking to death has got to be almost as bad as drowning, very scary when you really cannot get enough air inside you to stay alive. Isn't there a time-stamp run through of events that day somewhere? Showing how crap the government were in organising everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I don't watch much TV as its usually a pile of tripe, but this was such a thought provoking documentary. I wonder how guilty the journalist felt for naming Norberto Hernandez as the Falling Man (his family were religious and to commit suicide was to commit to Hell, the idea he jumped completely screwed them up) when it turns out it probably wasn't - did the journalist even think about what he was doing to them, in the name of a story? I thought this was the most tragic bit of the docu. The fact that his family in the months after his death thought that he was a weak man because he had jumped even though it wasn't him. This is the reason why i question becoming a journalist. The truth of this is that as journos you are taught that the human element of a story is the most important thing, this is the thing that sells papers, gets interest etc. After all like most people have said in the thread the most touching things that day were the stories of human survival, strangers coming together etc. Some idiot editor told that journalist to get the story about the man that jumped to sell more papers. Crappy comparision but this is the reason why the film 'Titanic' did well. Thousands of people died at sea and plenty of films have been made before, but put a love story in the mix, the film is a thousand times more popular. I think the woman (think she was the mother or sister of Jonathon - the man they came to believe the jumper was) was right in saying we shouldn't be trying to find out who the jumper is but looking at this picture and trying to find out who we are - the fact that we are alive we have a chance to change our future, to be better people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 If you worked in a building like that every day, wouldn't you just have to keep a long rope in your locker? Didn't see any. Think we all trust technology too much these days....... How about a parachute instead? I remember my mate phoning me to tell me and I didn't believe him. Then Norwich Union ground to a halt as TVs and radios manifested in offices. Shocking. Unreal. I think we've all mentally put ourselves in the jumper's place by now and that's what's so disturbing to us all, to be faced with such a choice. -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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