Supra-Dupra Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 After getting new rims fitted yesterday see here, and got to bring it out on the new rims today properly, only to find some rubbing on the front archs, only when turning really, a 10mm raise would be ideal but I cant afford a new suspension, so thats out of the question, plus this one was perfect with the old rims Any ideas ? Arch mod Maybe ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesupratt Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Arch mods are going to be yur only option really, unless you put up with it until you can change the suspension, unless you want to try yourself, any bodyshop can so it. I used to do arch mods daily on various cars! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 I wonder if.. there is such a thing as spacers, like big washers, to go between the spring and damper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Dupra Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 Arch mods are going to be yur only option really, unless you put up with it until you can change the suspension, unless you want to try yourself, any bodyshop can so it. I used to do arch mods daily on various cars! Thought as much but I wont go at that myself, will get someone with experience to do it. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Dupra Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 I wonder if.. there is such a thing as spacers, like big washers, to go between the spring and damper. I remember germancarcompany used to do them for the VW's, only they worked in reverse to lower it by 10mm or 15mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 I remember germancarcompany used to do them for the VW's, only they worked in reverse to lower it by 10mm or 15mm. How would that work then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Dupra Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 How would that work then? It went on top where the strut bars go and somehow squashed the springs down. I never really read up on them I just seen them in some mags and on there site, possibly closed now, as the site has turned into one of them annoying pointless link sites. http://germancarcompany.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmic Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 i was considering this as i have a sever problem on the offside front...even with coilovers,no matter how mush i try and raise it, it still sits too low on the o/s/f. i also considered having 10mm spacers in the shape of the top mounts made to sit between the shock and the innerwheel arch mounting surface thereby raising the car 10mm at the front...just an idea. i was quoted 25 quid by my local fabricator to have these made on the template i supplied. There is enough thread on the topmount bolts to allow a 10mm spacer to be used and still aloow it to be secure....how safe this would be im not too sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 I think it would be safer to have it inbetween the spring and damper. It probably isn't good at all in terms of suspension system design and geometry etc, kind of like cutting springs to lower a car, but it would work I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 pm sent to supra-dupra ok i have got the exact same problem, i went to koni's and eibachs and down to 18's with 235 on the front and i was rubbing, so my standard set up is back on the front and my koni's are away to a machine shop to get spacers made that are getting made from mild steel and lathed out in the middle so that it slides down the strut and it sits on the spring making a spacer at the top mount woudl not be advisable, the way i am going down is better, i cant afford a new suspension after fitting the koni's and eibachs brand new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soop Dogg Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 So have you guys increased your rolling radius on the front wheels by going up an inch or two from stock and having too high a profile on your tyres? There are tyre circumference calculators all over the internet to make sure you keep this within 2.5% tolerence. Also by increasing the diameter of you wheel/tyre package, your speedo will now be a fair way out too. I've had 3 sets of wheels on at least 3 different combinations of suspension over the last 5 years or so and never had any problems. If you go up a wheel size, you should also come down a profile on your tyres. Use one of the calculators on line to get as close as you can. See here (If you have a stock set up of 235x45x17", you can go to 275x35x18" and still be within about 1% of the original diameter. If you're getting rubbing when you turn the wheels, then this is a different problem altogether and you may be getting into an offset problem for which the only cure may be the dreaded spacers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 my offset is larger than what i had, so spacers for me woudl make it worse, the rolloing radius on mine is the same as standard 17's as i measured it with against redm's car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Dupra Posted March 12, 2006 Author Share Posted March 12, 2006 So have you guys increased your rolling radius on the front wheels by going up an inch or two from stock and having too high a profile on your tyres? There are tyre circumference calculators all over the internet to make sure you keep this within 2.5% tolerence. Also by increasing the diameter of you wheel/tyre package, your speedo will now be a fair way out too. I've had 3 sets of wheels on at least 3 different combinations of suspension over the last 5 years or so and never had any problems. If you go up a wheel size, you should also come down a profile on your tyres. Use one of the calculators on line to get as close as you can. See here (If you have a stock set up of 235x45x17", you can go to 275x35x18" and still be within about 1% of the original diameter. If you're getting rubbing when you turn the wheels, then this is a different problem altogether and you may be getting into an offset problem for which the only cure may be the dreaded spacers. 8.5 x 9.5 same size as the ones I just took off which fitted perfectly, but the new ones are deep dish style. Same tyres that were on the older rims are now on the new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Dupra Posted March 12, 2006 Author Share Posted March 12, 2006 Pics james, wheels can only turn 15% of full lock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 ouch that is low thats lower than my eibachs and i have a top secret bumpr that was low to start with here is a couple of pics of mine and its not been raised yet to give you an idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Dupra Posted March 12, 2006 Author Share Posted March 12, 2006 ye and Im on the stock front bumper imagine an aftermarket front, woudnt last a day. Full Bilstein btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 just edited that out as i keep losing connection and i did not realise my post was successful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 i would do a post in full detail fao chris wilson and ask his advice with the pics too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Dupra Posted March 12, 2006 Author Share Posted March 12, 2006 Think Ill nip down to a few body shops tomorrow and have words with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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