Supra Pilot Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 Just passing on very usefull info here so the rubbish, guessing and confusion can stop with regard to M.O.T. emissions on the Supra without 'CATS'. It's very simple, J-spec, N/A or Turbo. For the import TT's or n/a's there is not a specific application for them in the books and reference manuals for emission test readings. But there is an alternate chapter for all cars that come under this, so there is NO escape...... Basically here are the hard facts, any *SUPRA* manufactured/registered before "31 JULY 1995" there is a very lapsed emission standard, and basically you CAN PASS an M.O.T. with BOTH CATS OUT! If your *Supra* was man/reg after "01 AUG 1995", you face the new harder emission tests.......and more than likely will pass with just ONE CAT OUT................ ANyone is free to challenge this, but it's in black and white. D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesG Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 I have a Jap spec Supra and that's certainly how my local garage understands the regulations for imports. Didn't know that was the case for UK models as well, though. Can you post the appropriate page here? James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegatronUK Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 Can't comment on the imports, but any UK car manufactured after 1992 will have a catalytic convertor fitted... it was required by law. Therefore they must be tested as such.... just remember you can be fined for not having the cat on; and this can be up to £1000. Models on the changeover year may get away with it, as well as cars manufactured before that date which had them fitted (they are not required by law to have it fitted for the test, and will be tested for pre 92 non-cat emissions only). -John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Pilot Posted October 19, 2003 Author Share Posted October 19, 2003 You are quite right, UK cars unfortunatly fall under different rules! I did not realise I included UK spec in there, ammended now. J-Spec wins again... (well old ones anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 Wooo Hoo!!!! My car ROCKS Thanks SP!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timwildman Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 I know this might be a gai suggestion but, Has anyone ever fittet one of thoes high peformance cat's, in place of a stock jobbie, to get round this problem. Is there even a fitment for the supra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outatime Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 Originally posted by Supra Pilot Basically here are the hard facts, any *SUPRA* manufactured/registered before "31 JULY 1995" there is a very lapsed emission standard, and basically you CAN PASS an M.O.T. with BOTH CATS OUT! Anyone is free to challenge this, but it's in black and white. Where did you get this info from? I just failed cos my garage reckon the cut off point is 1992 not 95. The MOT guy is coming down later, I could do with some evidence to show him. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisR Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 Originally posted by outatime The MOT guy is coming down later, I could do with some evidence to show him Outatime, dont hold your breath. Just another case of post and run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegatronUK Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 It's definitely 1992. UK government required all manufacturers to fit catalytic convertors as standard after that date. I think it's August as the cut-off date (ie late J-reg may get away with it.) It is most definitely NOT 1995 for UK cars. That date is merely another cut-off point for a more stringent emissions test, it does not allow a car to run without a catalytic convertor... even if it *could* pass the test. -John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outatime Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 Originally posted by MegatronUK It's definitely 1992. UK government required all manufacturers to fit catalytic convertors as standard after that date. I think it's August as the cut-off date (ie late J-reg may get away with it.) It is most definitely NOT 1995 for UK cars. That date is merely another cut-off point for a more stringent emissions test, it does not allow a car to run without a catalytic convertor... even if it *could* pass the test. -John Hmmm, more conflicting info. Im gonna try the 'you dont have an exact match for my engine code' argument and hope that dom is right about the cut off point being 1995 for imports... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegatronUK Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 I have first hand experience of this... my father runs a garage and we need to be well read up on the SVA and emissions regulations when building the Lotus replica. I've got an SVA manual with the cut-off dates for the various emissions tests somewhere. *Off the top of my head*, there are dates something like this: Pre 78 : Visual test only Post 83 : Emissions (quite a lenient test) Post 88 : More stringent emissions test Post 92 : Emissions + catalytic convertor Post 95 : Cat + more restrictive test I've no idea what the hydrocarbon and co levels for these tests are... but I could probably find out when I get back in tonight. Of course, this is all assuming we are talking about UK cars.... Jap imports are a grey (excuse the pun) area. -John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outatime Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 Mines a JDM Supra, so i'll have to hope that the rules you quote dont apply I thought that the rules for Jspecs were different cos there is not an exact match for the engine code - there is an 'e' at the start. Its just whether the cut off point is different... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegatronUK Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 I agree. I think you could probably talk your way into a less stringent test for an import model, as you rightly say, there is no exact model match in the UK... the engine and fuelling system have several differences for a start! In the end I guess it comes down to what kind of mood the tester is in! Lets hope he's in a good mood ready for the weekend to arrive -John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Pilot Posted October 24, 2003 Author Share Posted October 24, 2003 I think MegatronUk summed it up for you! ChrisR, good luck with yours! Rgds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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