Digsy Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Asking on behalf of a mate. I was under the impression that it was illegal to leave your car running if you were not inside it i.e. when de-icing the screen). Does anyone know for certain is this is the case or not, and if so does it apply to when the car is on your own driveway as oppose dto the public highway? TIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 You are correct but it could just be on a public highway? I leave mine running before work so it's defrosted and toasty warm by the time I get in it, but thats on a drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 People visiting the village shop below us leave their cars running. If anyone wants an Aston Martin Vantage try to be there before 7:20 am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SteveW's Carole Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Not sure about the legal implications on this matter is but I do know that if your car is stolen while you are "warming" it up or de- icing it and your car is left unattended you aren't covered by your insurance company if it gets "nicked"!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Yeah I think it's only illegal on the public roads - but that won't help if it gets nicked off your drive and the insurance refuse to pay!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 it is illegal by i am sure its a by-law and is dependent on area to area, just like the law for coloured bulbs they are legal in some areas and illegal in others but is a policeman really going to pull you for that? but of a silly question but again we do have quite a lot of silly ego hungry policemen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Found this : Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986. Regulation 98 provides that, except in specified circumstances, the driver of a vehicle must stop the engine when the vehicle is stationary in order to prevent noise. Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) (Amendment) Regulations 1998 amends that provision so as to add the prevention of exhaust emissions as a reason for stopping the engine. http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1998/19980001.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Not sure about the legal implications on this matter is but I do know that if your car is stolen while you are "warming" it up or de- icing it and your car is left unattended you aren't covered by your insurance company if it gets "nicked"!!!!! If someone steals mine they are welcome to it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Found this : Is that the only part that covers it? Thought there was more to it than that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Well it seems to be a question that's been asked on uk.legal quite a few times. Everyone agrees that it's illegal to do but the above is the only thing anyone has heard of somebody being nicked for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 what about that system that enables you to start the car from inside the house , is that legal or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Stationary? Every junction, set of lights, crossing, traffic queue then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 what about that system that enables you to start the car from inside the house , is that legal or notillegal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 what about that system that enables you to start the car from inside the house , is that legal or not intellistart? illegal, voids insurance I believe. Like turbo timers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Ok the definitive answer: The offence is described as QUITTING: It is an offence to leave a motor vehicle on a road unless both the engine has been stopped and the brake set (hand brake) Cont to reg 107 of Construction and Use Regulations. There is also another offence of not stopping and engine of a vehicle or part of a vehicle for the prevention of noise or emissions. Reg 98 Const. & Use regs. HOWEVER it is a very popular method for car theives to take vehicles off driveways whilst the car is being warmed up. If you are going to do it on your drive, use your turbo timer. Always be by your car. Because you'll have a hard time getting a payout from your insurers because you left your keys in the car with the engine running unattended! HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 addendum Regulation 98 does NOT apply when you are stopped in traffic. Its primary function is to deal with coaches lorries etc parked up with their engines running. Also turbo timers SHOULD be wired in so that you cannot lock your car, and if the clutch is pressed or the handbrake is depressed or a gear is engaged the engine should stop. They are not illegal in themselves seeing as some vehicles have them fitted as standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 That's dEfinitive, copper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 So you get in your car and start it to find a parking ticket or leaflet that you hadnt noticed then you have to turn car off and get out to take away the thing on your screen and then restart which uses more fuel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 You should do because it's a quite common stealing technique to put something on your rear screen (or was that a hoax?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 So you get in your car and start it to find a parking ticket or leaflet that you hadnt noticed then you have to turn car off and get out to take away the thing on your screen and then restart which uses more fuel? There's always one!!!! Lol! I think perhaps a degree of common sense would be called for. I forgot to mention, that if there is a passenger in the car and the engine is left running they must be licensed to drive the car. I think in 14yrs of my career I've given out a ticket for quitting once! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outatime Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 We had a 20k Transit pinched last year. The driver left it running at the goods inwards of a big company in Wednesbury, walked to the front of the van to get something signed and someone jumped in it and drove off. Never saw it again. Its at a 'director level' with the insurance company, but I don't expect we'll get anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 ....turbo timers .... are not illegal in themselves .... Thank you! I'm bookmarking this thread. I've had this "discussion" (well, argument, really ) on several other forums, and people will not accept that it's not turbo timers which are illegal, but the act of leaving the car unattended with the engine running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outatime Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 I left mine on the turbo timer outside a shop, a policeman came in to tell me that my car was still running. I explained that it was locked and would turn off in a few seconds, he just said 'ok' and walked off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Dont know about the hoax, but sometimes you just get in your car in a rush and start so you dont see this little card for valetting! I aint going to turn the car off and if a cop has a go I'll tell him to chill as the tubbies are getting their oil! What if you are half in and out! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 That's odd because I remember my old insurance company telling me it wasn't covered if I had a timer fitted, let alone used it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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