black cat Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 does any one else get it??? when in high gear under lots of load. revs go higher than they should for a split second and then car rockets off. ???????????? tt steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 I had it once. It was my early signs of a dying stock clutch. My flywheel also needed replacing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supRo Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Yup, clutch is dying edit: My flywheel was knackered too. The longer you leaveit the more likely the Flywheel will be worn away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max21 Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Hi Guys, I recently had my slipping STOCK clutch replaced by a Toyota UK sourced clutch, but the car feels sort of whimpish, any one experience this sort of castration on their RZ-TT? Please help as I miss the urge and the kick from the old clutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted February 28, 2006 Author Share Posted February 28, 2006 ££££££££££££££???????????????????? it dont do it in low gears and i can spin wheels like a gooden, iam hoping its not gona be for a while... as its not a dayly runner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 If the stock flywheel needs replacing .. then no more than £350. You'll get one cheaper - if you go through Steve Manley from Kidlington Toyota. Mine was from Kidlington - but that was before ..Steve Manley was about. Clutch .. not sure about a stock one. But my RPS street sport was £450 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 This is what i paid for mine july 2004 they may well have changed since then clutch cover assy £119.95 clutch release bearing £37.33 Clutch plate £78.33 Flywheel £280.72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted February 28, 2006 Author Share Posted February 28, 2006 This is what i paid for mine july 2004 they may well have changed since then clutch cover assy £119.95 clutch release bearing £37.33 Clutch plate £78.33 Flywheel £280.72 was that including fitting??? ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 This is what i paid for mine july 2004 they may well have changed since then For sure. I bought my flywheel back in December 2004. Don't know how a RPS Street sport is nowadays ... may well be cheaper than what I paid for mine back in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSoop Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Hi guys just wonderin wot is clutch slip cos wen i change gear from first to first goin fairly slowly and low revs, my revs go higher 4 a split second does that mean ive got clutch slip???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 was that including fitting??? ouch! I paid £150 for labour, the thing was there was nothing wrong with my clutch at the time, it was the release bearing that went so i decided to replace all the bits while the box was dropped rather than having it dropped again at a later date and paying more labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Clutch slip happens when your accelerating and you change gear ... the rev's climb - and drive seems to cease for a few moments then return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max21 Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 yes I think you have clutch slip if your revs initially build-up and then return to a sensible level. Normally, you should notice your self being propelled forwards in proportion to the revs your dial-in with your right foot. If the revs run up and return to a lower reading whilst you were still accelerating, then you most probably have a Slipping Clutch and it suppose it would be prudent to have it diagnosed asap, before it eats your flywheel. Check out the Guys at Phoenix in Watford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted February 28, 2006 Author Share Posted February 28, 2006 f**kin hells bells............................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 yes I think you have clutch slip if your revs initially build-up and then return to a sensible level. Normally, you should notice your self being propelled forwards in proportion to the revs your dial-in with your right foot. If the revs run up and return to a lower reading whilst you were still accelerating, then you most probably have a Slipping Clutch and it suppose it would be prudent to have it diagnosed asap, before it eats your flywheel. Check out the Guys at Phoenix in Watford. Jesus mate, where you been at?!! Anyway, what you said is correct. Another symptom is slipping when on high boost. Mine didn’t slip when changing, but when coming on boost at motorway speeds, the rpm shot to redline and didn’t come down unless I take my foot off the accelerator. Needed a new clutch (stock), flywheel (Southbend), release bearing, pressure plate and slave cylinder... inc fitting it was well over £1k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSoop Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Yeah i think im ok, i dont have clutch slip, i think the revs climb just a bit wen im changing gear because the clutch is pressed. and i dont feel my self being propelled forward so i dont think ive got clutch slip. wot do u think??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted February 28, 2006 Author Share Posted February 28, 2006 test it on motorway mate, 4th gear 4500rmp floor it and see what happens in a high gear mine for asplit second revs go to about 5000 and then car launches forward as normal. it all happens so fast second or may be less. feels like your wheels brake traction. iam hoping that it still may be this. it was pritty shitty on the roads last time i was out but i thought it was dry..... so i fear the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bijal Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Steve, i forgot to mention to you yesterday when we spoke: when you guys are trying to check this ensure you have traction control switched off. if the traction control is on then a hesitation like this can happen, so you would want to eliminate that to start with. bijal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted March 1, 2006 Author Share Posted March 1, 2006 cheers, greg told me that as well. ill try it out when the roads are less crappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Steve, i forgot to mention to you yesterday when we spoke: when you guys are trying to check this ensure you have traction control switched off. if the traction control is on then a hesitation like this can happen, so you would want to eliminate that to start with. bijal The stock traction control wouldn't stop it revving tho - it would just cut power completely. As far as I understand - his problem is that. He accelerates hard ... the revs climb - there is a momentary loss in drive because the friction material in his clutch is worn .. then the clutch begins to bites/grips the flywheel ... which causes the car to lurch forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bijal Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 The stock traction control wouldn't stop it revving tho - it would just cut power completely. As far as I understand - his problem is that. He accelerates hard ... the revs climb - there is a momentary loss in drive because the friction material in his clutch is worn .. then the clutch begins to bites/grips the flywheel ... which causes the car to lurch forward. it would only cut power completly if the ecu detects excesive wheel spin, and in a higher gear and motorway speeds the possibilty on excesive wheels spin on BPU like steve's car would be minimum. however, would be slight there but not enough to cut revs, hence the hesitation. regardless, during ANY diognostics the theory of eliminating easy and cost effective method(s) are crucial to saving excesive and un-needed costs of finding out the specific problem(s), hence, switching it off. stevo, just give me a shout when you feel like popping out for spin and we'll meet up. will take a look at it for ya (an excuse for the both of us to take the sups out) LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 it would only cut power completly if the ecu detects excesive wheel spin I thought that was the only thing the stock traction could do ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bijal Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 I thought that was the only thing the stock traction could do ?! nope, the stock MKIV supra (certainly the turbo model) traction control system is far more advanced that some people give it credit, in other words, its like it has its own brain (which it does, a seperate ecu). i have experianced the stock TRC system cut revs totaly and also allow for very minor wheel spin, its been dependent on what speed, what revs, what loads, how much power the car was producing etc etc. its a wierd system, put it that way!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 nope, the stock MKIV supra (certainly the turbo model) traction control system is far more advanced that some people give it credit, in other words, its like it has its own brain (which it does, a seperate ecu). i have experianced the stock TRC system cut revs totaly and also allow for very minor wheel spin, its been dependent on what speed, what revs, what loads, how much power the car was producing etc etc. its a wierd system, put it that way!!! That's my experience of it too. It's amazing how much more easily the car pulls if I turn the stock T/C off. Can't wait to fit the RLTC by my side here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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