J-S14A Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Do both of these cars have the same top end speed, and how much does acceleration differ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Manual vs auto? Depends how quick you can change gear in a tractor!!! I think everyone will just say to drive both; the auto is a brilliant box and will usually give faster straight line times - the manual will obviously be quicker for track use in the majority of people (and I prefer it cos it's more involving). If you've got a spare few min then have a look at this thread for speeds etc. of different units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJI Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 For the true involved sportscar drive then go for the manual. For the town driver go for the auto. *(runs and takes cover)* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian R Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaoriFan Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 i prefer auto, as for town driving nothing beats it. soon as you hit the open road, the auto box is so nice and responsive, still can go head to head with pretty much anything. imho both are as good as each other. true, that if you want involvement manual is more fun and if going into a race/track environment, but the auto box would be my choice for the best of both worlds, town and open road. You also dont lose any of the oomph at high speed with the auto box, it still pulls wonderfully fast drive an auto box car from most other manufacturers, then drive the Supra auto and its just perfectly set up. more importantly don't floor it from junctions etc, as it can be a real experience with all the power. so i will sit here and eat and watch for the fun to start the three most 'fun' questions: a) auto v manual b) j-spec v uk-spec c) colour for me it was easy, auto, j-spec, and silver (as its the fastest colour and wont fade, ) going to now and not be controversial finally, will say that whatever you end up with, its still the nicest car around, even after all these years. edited: i miss my Supra, as it is away atm having work done, think i should go and give it a hug, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 From experiance top end on ukspecs of similar mods the manual gains ground on the auto very slightly but it was noticable that the car behind was creeping up lower down wouldnt be much in it with good changes i wouldnt have said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 When talking top end or acceleration it is important to account for the large range of wheels used. From the 16" of the std JSpec to the 19" or bigger that some fit. The gearing changes quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 The manual is an amazing box, don't be put off by "agricultural" comments, TBH it's strong, tough and feels like a real gearbox, it isn't some sissy box from a fiat panda - and it can take mental BHP. the manual is very rewarding to drive, but you need to put the effort in to be any good with it... the auto makes a lot of sense around town and for simple drag starts... Definitely drive both, depends what you want out of a car - good manuals are generally much harder to find (well thats what I found anyway when looking) - it's worth the wait/search if it's what you want though! this is a hot topic though on here lol, it's been argued to death and there are fans of both gearbox types - so they are both very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underworld Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 The only thing that puts me off is the supposed loss of 20-25%? in power through the drivetrain from an auto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 The only thing that puts me off is the supposed loss of 20-25%? in power through the drivetrain from an auto. The auto will always have more losses than the manual. But losses would be closer to (say) 8% for a manual and 11% for an auto The above are totally fictitious numbers, for the pub feel free to use 20+% and 30+% respectively Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Manual = You think your a God. Auto = You admit a computer is more accurate and better suited to the task. If I want to have fun, its a manual, if I want the best times, an auto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Manual = You think your a God. Auto = You admit a computer is more accurate and better suited to the task. If I want to have fun, its a manual, if I want the best times, an auto. you will be wanting computer asisted or controlled steering next driving is a human thing, computers don't need to get from A to B although I bet those skilled rally drivers (the most skilled of all IMHO) really wished they had an auto 4 speed box to better their track times with. There is more to life than a drag time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letmeshowyou Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Underworld, if the only thing putting you off is raving read about 25% power losses, drive both and see what your ass-dyno says. Let us know what you think of the difference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 exactly, try for yourself and see what floats your boat, so long as it's a supra who's complaining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Manual all the way and jspec too, the uk spec is too fat and autos are for sissys!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 not to mention the dildos and halfords scoop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 "waiting for Bobbeh to take the bait" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 All good things come to those who wait...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Its ok chavs, rant on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 vs Tiptronic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 vs Tiptronic? Pointless conversation pt 2, manual ownz tiptronic (if you're a propper driver) EDIT - I'll spell it correctly this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Tiptronic, what a laugh... It's for those with arms so short that they can't reach to the lever or find it too complicated to engage in 'manu' mode. (haircut anyone? ) That's all it does. As for the references to the UKSpec....just ask yourselves: Why does swapping parts to UKSpec is an 'upgrade' for you? Those who can't reach the Holy Grail call it a plastic cup. Envy is understandable. So be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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