merckx Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Nice one Mr Bull! Makes my blood boil when I see scumbags hurting any animals, it really upsets me. How on earth their government is still allowing this in full view of the world . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Has anyone seen the grizzly man film yet? That is animals getting their own back in a seriously big way. Heard loads about this, when they found the remains of the bloke and his girlfriend there was like 5 pounds of meat left Stupid mo fo's playing with wild bears in matting season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Nice one Mr Bull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooze Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Hope all you animal rights, right-on types are all vegans. Animals in the mass food industry are typically treated as bad if not worse than animals in these kind of activities, and in much, much, much greater numbers. I'm certainly no fan of any of these kind of supposed "sports" and can't see much entertainment in any of them, but I find it kind of hypocritical to criticise it and then tuck into a chicken pie or something..... (just my 2p again - to everybodys' opinions) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJI Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I can see where you're coming from Snooze but I don't think its hypocracy. If an animal is killed for food then its killed for a specific purpose. If its killed for 'sport' then that is just killing for the sake of pleasing some dickhead who thinks its cool to be able to shoot a defenceless creature. I know what you're saying about the way some animals are killed for food.... the jewish abortoirs (sp?) in the UK and around the worlds slit the throats of animals and let them bleed to death. That is very cruel, and I can't believe it is still allowed. But the main distinction is that if an animal is killed for food then because the human race is top of the food chain then this has to be done. But then there is the big argument about which animals should be eaten..... as in which are proper foods to sustain human life and which are eaten purely for delecesies (sp?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooze Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 But then there is the big argument about which animals should be eaten..... as in which are proper foods to sustain human life and which are eaten purely for delecesies The human body at the moment is (arguably - I don't really want to get into that one here) omniverous, and I for one aren't going to stop eating meat anytime soon. Delicacies (sp? ) are interesting..... the way they make fois gras borders on sadism, but damn me if it doesn't taste fantastic! I wasn't making a comment on whether we should eat animals at all or which ones we should eat, but more about how we go about it: ------ Cruelty to animals for sport is done in the name of entertainment. Cruelty to animals for delicacies is done in the name of luxury. Blinding, de-beaking and daily pig-protein injections for chickens left to live out their short, miserable lives standing waist deep in their own shit is done to make sure a McChicken Sandwich costs less than a couple of quid. ------ If we needed cheap food to survive, then I would agree with you wholeheartedly, but we don't. People these days in the civilised world expect meat with every meal - only 100 years ago they would have been lucky to get it once a week. Ever wondered why a free-range organic chicken costs £10 but the frozen stuff costs £5 for two? Ever wondered why meat is getting cheaper to buy when everything else is getting more expensive? Getting cheaper meat just means you can enjoy BETTER meals - you won't starve or die of malnutrition if you don't eat meat twice a day - and isn't getting better food just another form of "entertainment"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
far Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 feckin 'ell! Thats some springy bull right there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJI Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 good points there snooze I agree totally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I can't stand this 'killing animals for sport is wrong, but I still eat meat' crap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I can't stand this 'killing animals for sport is wrong, but I still eat meat' crap... I think you have to be specific by what you mean by killing for sport and killing for meat. Theres a big difference between an animal being bred then tortured in the name of sport and an animal being bred and humanely killed for food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 Theres a big difference between an animal being bred then tortured in the name of sport and an animal being bred and humanely killed for food. Not if you're a self-righteous veggie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Not if you're a self-righteous veggie Well, science has proved that humans were designed to eat meat so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Heard loads about this, when they found the remains of the bloke and his girlfriend there was like 5 pounds of meat left Stupid mo fo's playing with wild bears in matting season. yeah and just their faces - completely intact. Urgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Well, science has proved that humans were designed to eat meat so... but meat stay in your stomach for weeks as we can't break it down very easily, so I wouldn't say we're designed to eat it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Not if you're a self-righteous veggie Not self righteous, just put my money where my mouth is... All these people spouting off about this is wrong and that is wrong, if you had to kill your own food, there would be very few meat eaters out there... because then we'd call it 'sport' and then it's a bad thing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooze Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I can't stand this 'killing animals for sport is wrong, but I still eat meat' crap... Love the fact that I agree with Sonic entirley but funnily enough from the opposite viewpoint. I eat loads of meat and love it and I also have no problem with blood sports! How about this: Breed 5,000 pigs and put them in cages too small for them to even turn around. Force feed them the processed remains of their brethren's carcasses. You'll make a fortune selling bacon. Poke 1 dog with a stick and the RSPCA can have you arrested! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooze Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Theres a big difference between an animal being bred then tortured in the name of sport and an animal being bred and humanely killed for food. Bet there's not many people here who make sure that they only eat food from humanely treated animals. I reckon without growing ALL your own food, it would be impossible to know for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooze Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 One last thought which just occurred to me: How many of you have real leather seats? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJI Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 material for leather seats is a by-product of meat production..... cows aren't killed purely for their leather alone in this country. (Well they aren't allowed by law to anyhow). I don't see any problem using a material if it would be simply thrown away otherwise. Killing an animal purely for its fur is another area I don't agree with. Everyone has their own views on the 'use' of animals.... IMO I think they always get the uneccesary raw end of the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 . I eat loads of meat and love it and I also have no problem with blood sports! So you agree with animals being ripped apart for the fun of it then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Love the fact that I agree with Sonic entirley but funnily enough from the opposite viewpoint. I eat loads of meat and love it and I also have no problem with blood sports! That you 'think' you agree with me is reasonably offence considering your follow up comment... can't actually believe I'm replying... I just hope I never have the displeasure of meeting you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Snooze, Even if you don't mind blood sports you could have been alittle more sensitive and maybe diplomatic. Lot of animal lovers here (No, not beastality) including me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooze Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 That you 'think' you agree with me is reasonably offence considering your follow up comment... can't actually believe I'm replying... Sorry for the misunderstanding. Probably my incorrect use of the word "entirely". I intended it to just be a lighthearted comment as I only meant I agreed when you said: I can't stand this 'killing animals for sport is wrong, but I still eat meat' crap... You clearly feel far more strongly about animal rights than I do, and I wouldn't dare to claim that your strong opinions ( ) and my apathetic ones ( ) are in agreement. I just hope I never have the displeasure of meeting you.... Well that's nice. I'm merely stating my opinions, not making personal judgements. If you want to diss me just 'cos I'm not out sabotaging fox hunts, I'll have to put this one down as your loss, I guess...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooze Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 So you agree with animals being ripped apart for the fun of it then? Not exactly what I meant. I only said I "have no problem" with blood sports, not that I positively supported them. In fact, I don't think I either agree OR disagree with blood sports like this. I have absolutely no desire to partake or even spectate at anything of this nature, but I'm also not going to get upset if other people want to...... Snooze, Even if you don't mind blood sports you could have been alittle more sensitive and maybe diplomatic. Lot of animal lovers here (No, not beastality) including me Yeah - fair point. Like I said in my first post, I do respect those peoples' opinions (ESPECIALLY those like Sonic who talk the talk AND back it up with the lifestyle). I did mean it, and apologise if I offended anyone. I don't really have a direct opinion on the subject of blood sports (I was more stating my opinion on other peoples opinions, if you see what I mean?), but if I really HAD to choose between pro- and anti-blood sports, then I'd probably fall into the anti-blood sports side, but I think it would be horribly hypocritical of me to sit here complaining about fox hunting whilst I'm waiting for my roast dinner to finish cooking, wouldn't it? Again - no offense intended - have a good evening everyone... I'm off to bed before I dig myself any deeper!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust2luv Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 I guarantee those bulls in the bull fights have had a better life (and in some cases a quicker death) than many animals bred for fur or food. So which is the greater crime? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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