Pete Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I no longer smoke, but do not mind those who do, and think it is something we have a right to. You think people should have the right to inflict dangerous chemicals and proven cancer related toxins onto other people where ever they want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shovels Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Fantastic News!!! - I can't stand smoking - really pisses me off when I can smell it in a pub/resturant, etc. I made the misses give up smoking before I would go out with her. She now can't believe she smoked and can't stand it when she can smell it. It doesn't bother me if people want to kill themselves, but when they inflict it on me as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Actually I think that the 'aftermath' of the activity are equally annoying for the non-participants. Same as drugs. Yes, you can get high on heroin in your own home and why should it be anyone else's business? But wait, once you start mugging and breaking into other people's houses to sustain your habit the 'free-for-all' attitude changes, doesn't it? Same with drinking, I was once unlucky enough to live opposite a major pub and I can tell you that the after-effects of drinking are not always confined in the designated drinking areas (to put it mildly ) There are catalysts for everything we do, and indeed causes and effects. That doesn't stop it from being a personal choice to smoke, drink, take drugs whatever. Getting back to the topic at hand, i agree that smoking should be banned in public places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew7 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 [quote name=peter richards andrew 7 , nobodys ever got drunk watching someone else having a pint .[/quote] Yes, but many non-drinkers suffer (and badly) because of drunken behaviour... Apparently one in three accidents after 9 pm are drink related, and look how much they take up in police resources, hospital staff etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted February 15, 2006 Author Share Posted February 15, 2006 True, but it still doesnt defend the smoking corner tho. Plus, its been said that certain amounts of alcohol is good for the body... but excessive 'binge' amounts (which is the real problem here) needs to be targeted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I'm a nonsmoker and welcome the ban, however, I feel we are getting ever dangerously closer to a dictatorship. I fear MP's are bowing to their own feelings and them of the hierarchy and not reflecting the views of us - the constituent. Bring back public bars and lounge bars - one for smokers and one for non. Accomodate both, after all they (the smokers) do stink but also have a right to stink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Bring back public bars and lounge bars - one for smokers and one for non. Accomodate both, after all they (the smokers) do stink but also have a right to stink. I thought about this. There used to be "Smoking Lounges". Problem is, people want to spend time with their friends. One or two may smoke, so they all go to the smoking area. The smoking area became too small so they make 'em larger or do away with the no smokers sections. The whole "social" aspect of smoking is what causes seems to cause problems. I'm sure local country pubs will still flaunt the ban with just the larger chain pubs sticking to the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Hear what your saying Pete, all I'm trying to say is we all have the right to choose, where we have a pint, be it in a smoky room with smoking friends or vice verse or a lovely air conditioned clean atmosphere room. I'm sure us non smokers can make the majority of smokers feel like lepers without an out right ban. Small dark stinking hole of a back room for smokers and their non smoking friends? Who's going to be where???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 yay:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 They will never ban smoking imagine tax money lost, im hopeing smokers just go outside and smoke as much or the Money is gonna come from another sort of tax for us all!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xksupra Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I agree with the Ban, and in polls the majority of the public agree with Banning smoking in public places. So I wouldn't agree that it means we are heading to a dictatorship, the MPs have actually voted in line with public opinion (for once). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 well, ok, what if you own your own pub and you smoke? you can't smoke on your own premesis? hmmm. I can understand that people who work in bars shouldn't be subjected to it... but no-ones forcing them to work in a bar equally. I don't smoke so I'm not fussed either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Personally I welcome the ban - I love a quiet pint of HSB on a Friday evening before strolling home for dinner. Only trouble is, I can only do that in summer, when I can sit outside, away from the smoke. In policitcal terms I think the government has shown huge balls by passing such a vote-losing resolution. Not to mention the potential for lost tax revenue from tobacco and alcohol. The potential benefit to public health stands much higher in my opinion. Oh, and smokers are now in the minority - why should their "right to smoke" be more important than our right not to breathe their waste? And why do we have to put up with piles of fag-butts littering the streets? Or the still-lit butts flying out of car windows? (That one really gets me. Gonna stop now, before I get worked up!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted February 15, 2006 Author Share Posted February 15, 2006 well, ok, what if you own your own pub and you smoke? you can't smoke on your own premesis? hmmm. Problem is its a PUBLIC house and also a point of sales, so I can see why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 well, ok, what if you own your own pub and you smoke? you can't smoke on your own premesis? hmmm. I can understand that people who work in bars shouldn't be subjected to it... but no-ones forcing them to work in a bar equally. I don't smoke so I'm not fussed either way. A pub (public house) is by definition a public place, regardless of whether it's your own premises or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTIN R Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Total ban would be my vote:tongue: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Suits me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Speed Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Good riddance - I'd ban it outright. Give 1 year's notice to allow people to quit. And while they're at it, ban chewing gum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Goodskills I say, I just can't wait to find the first filthy bastard flowting it down the boozer so I can remind the staff of the £2.5k fine yes I'm a git like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 You think people should have the right to inflict dangerous chemicals and proven cancer related toxins onto other people where ever they want? Designated smoking areas cure that one nicely. Where next is the question? Sure you don't like people smoking around you, but how about the noise and pollution you inflict when you take the car out for a blast. It is where this leads that is worrying. Nanny state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 trouble is with designated smoking areas the smokers are in there but the smoke isnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambertpig Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 great news. i own a fish chip restaurant which i made non smoking 18 months ago as i thought it was the right time. place is so much nicer and 95% feedback has been positve. i wish i had done it 3-4 years earlier.now it will be law no one can moan as the odd one or 2 still do. as for drinking anybody should have the option to drink (to exsess if they like) but the law should hammer people who behave like idiots(fighting ,drink driving,vandalizm ,etc) instead of silly fines. if you cant handle too much drink dont do it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Dupra Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Thats happened here well over a year and a half ago now, Its a great idea makes you cut down alot, I dont know about others but I tend to rip thru em when I drink (well used too) ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markymark Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 on that note im going to light a cig and inhale all those toxins :drag: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 What get sme is private clubs have the ban forced on them too - if I choose to have a smokers only club that is not public and has a membership requirement that is to be a smoker I cannot legally do that under the new law - why?? Of course there is a way around it - I'll simply lease 1 square foot of my club to each member so that they "own" that piece of property and so can smoke in it - say £200 a year for the lease and membership - 500 members in each town who are driven out of normal pubs plus the profits on the alcohol and thanks you Tony I'll be a millionaire within 6 months!! Shame they don't ban drinking in public too as it costs the country more in health problems and far more in policing and very few accidents occur by smoking a driving whereas drinking..... and who ever walks to a pub??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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