Lewis Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 JohnA said: it helps if you have the magick touch though Aleister Crowley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Chiefgroover said: LMAO.....just had a thought, now we need a special masons only part of the forum, which on the receipt of a password you can enter lmao this implies that there isn't one already. Nice one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afreemason Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 Only problem would be it'd be a bugger to get working ....... not being able to use WINDOWS and all:eyebrows: :eyebrows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bammbamm Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Did any of you guys go to the masons do as Shrewsbury last night apparently for there wives? Only the girlfriend was singing there for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afreemason Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 No bammbamm I didn't, I was at my own lodge last night, twas our 600th meeting so a few big wigs in attendance. Masonic do's take two forms I guess .... Masons only, full regalia, toasts etc and what's usually termed "ladies to dine" the most formal of which is usually dubbed a ladies night where the blokes have a shower and the tottie dusts down a ball gown or old brides maids dress !!!!!!!! While still formal, these sorts of meets don't involve a proper lodge meeting (in the lodge room) rather a hopefully lavish nosh and after dinner entertainment ...... by the sound of things your other half's speciality !!!!! Sound about right !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bammbamm Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Yep sounds like the ladies night to me m8, the girlfriend had a good night, didn’t come home with a new handshake though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 my grandad was a very senior member of the Freemasons (Chief wizard, maybe grand chief wizard - i am not totally sure) sadly he died a few years ago, id like to join, to sort of continue it through our family. im not sure if this is a valid reason for joining, however, i know its better than a lot of peoples reasons - they just want to be in the same lodge as the chief of police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 I got invited to a masons place a while back. Reminded me a lot of the sergeants mess really. Mega cheap booze. I think I'd actually like being a part of a club like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith C Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 One thing I'm curious about - is it related to Round Table in any way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Keith C said: One thing I'm curious about - is it related to Round Table in any way? Nope - although quite a few members of the RT that I know are also Masons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afreemason Posted February 13, 2006 Author Share Posted February 13, 2006 Well I joined my dad's lodge a few years after he'd died ........ it's as good a reason as any !!!!! Perhaps the best thing about it is you're away fom home, on business or something, and even abroad, you can be guaranteed to be received into a lodge you've never been to and meet people you've never met before and be guaranteed a warm welcome and feel that you're among friends ....... IMHO that's nice ....... although not unlike turning up at a Supra meet with a supra ...... now a Supra meet with a zed - whole new kettle of fish ha ha ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afreemason Posted February 13, 2006 Author Share Posted February 13, 2006 As for the chief of police comment ....... lets just say I've made sure the number plates on my zed have my avatar very boldly displayed ....... for club purposes naturally!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Interesting you should mention the cheif of police. I recall that Hamilton chap, the one who shot up the school in Dunblane, was a Mason. As was the chief of police in his neck of the woods. He was kicked out of the gun clubs for inappropriate behaviour and this was reported by concerned shooters to.... the chief of police. He was also allowed to keep his guns, despite not being a member of a gun club - which immediately makes it illegal hold firearms without the express authority of... the chief of police. The school reported his loitering outside the school to.... the chief of police. And yet he was allowed to keep all his guns. The result was fairly awful and the fallout was the dead kids, the ruined familes, legitimate shooters were demonised, the sport was ruined, livelihoods wrecked all in the name of scapegoating, and pretty much the only person unaffected was.... the chief of police. I haven't got much time for Masons for some reason. -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Do you have hard evidence that the actual reporting of all the previous worries did indeed go to the Chief of Police? Or is knowing that both the bad guy and the Chief of Police were Masons an easier way of painting the corruption picture? Do you also know if the Chief of Police was actually based anywhere near the bad guy? In my experience, people from outside the craft use lots of arguments against it and yet when you actaully analyse the "corruption" evidence it is very weak. You say you have very little time for Masons and Freemasonry. Can I ask why? Have you been personally involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afreemason Posted February 13, 2006 Author Share Posted February 13, 2006 It's like anything ...... you get bad apples, doesn't deminish the principles behind the organisation !!!! My old scout master was locked up for taking inaapropriate photos of children ...... doesn't make all scount masters kiddy fidlers. There is a disciplinary proceedure within freemasonry which if follow correctly SHOULD chop out the wrong uns but nothings perfect !!!! YOu could have ended your post by saying you don't have much time for the Police but hey that's a given ha ha ha !!!!! It's like saying all Supra owners speed when we all know some own NA's so that cant be true !!!!!! (lets hope madam won't be reading this shall we !!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 CJ said: Do you have hard evidence that the actual reporting of all the previous worries did indeed go to the Chief of Police? Or is knowing that both the bad guy and the Chief of Police were Masons an easier way of painting the corruption picture? Do you also know if the Chief of Police was actually based anywhere near the bad guy? In my experience, people from outside the craft use lots of arguments against it and yet when you actaully analyse the "corruption" evidence it is very weak. You say you have very little time for Masons and Freemasonry. Can I ask why? Have you been personally involved? I got heavily involved with the political fallout from the Dunblane incident in an attempt to help save my sport. Some newshounds dug up the Masonic link and in interviews the local gun clubs said they kicked him out for basically pissing about with guns and being really wierd about them. More press interviews uncovered the parents and teachers warning plod. Standard law says that the only way a normal civvie with no gun club membership can keep guns is by the chief of police allowing it. With all the warnings from teachers, parents, and the shooting community itself to the police this bloke should not have been allowed 100m near a gun. And yet he had the chief's blessing to own them... You tell me why that decision was made, oh and by the way, they were both Masons, handshake handshake. That's why I have little time for them This is probably gonna blow up and I did wonder about posting it but then I thought why shouldn't I - it's not like I'm making it up. Bad things happened due to chumminess between chief of police and nutcase with guns. Draw your own conclusions. -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 afreemason said: It's like anything ...... you get bad apples, doesn't deminish the principles behind the organisation !!!! My old scout master was locked up for taking inaapropriate photos of children ...... doesn't make all scount masters kiddy fidlers. There is a disciplinary proceedure within freemasonry which if follow correctly SHOULD chop out the wrong uns but nothings perfect !!!! YOu could have ended your post by saying you don't have much time for the Police but hey that's a given ha ha ha !!!!! It's like saying all Supra owners speed when we all know some own NA's so that cant be true !!!!!! (lets hope madam won't be reading this shall we !!!) Yup, I agree, bad apples always bring things down. Note I said that I personally don't have much time for them, not "ban the freemasons!" because I fucking hate people wanting stuff banned just because *they* don't like it. Shame this bad apple did what he did That's one motherfucking bad apple /SamuelLJackson I have time for the Police, they got my mum out of a ditch a couple of weeks ago, car on it's side and filling with water Don't have much time for civvie speed nazi's though -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 CJ said: Do you have hard evidence that the actual reporting of all the previous worries did indeed go to the Chief of Police? Or is knowing that both the bad guy and the Chief of Police were Masons an easier way of painting the corruption picture? Oooh! You took the words right out of my mouth! (Or the post right out of my ....whatever) I was just itching to make the same point after reading Ian's post. Well Ian? Did the school really report their concerns directly to the chief of police? edit: Ian's post no longer says that. Maybe I imagined it - his Moderator priveldges mean that it doesn't show when he's edited a post. (not getting personal, Ian - just debating. ok?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Jake said: Well Ian? Did the school really report their concerns directly to the chief of police? Well I'm pretty sure the Chief of Police would be informed of anything like that regardless of whether it was reported directly or not wouldn't he/she? Oh god now I'm involved too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 tbourner said: I'm pretty sure the Chief of Police would be informed of anything like that regardless of whether it was reported directly or not Oh I see. Yeah, you're probably right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I thought hand guns were banned following, and as a result of, the Dunblane massacre. So what's Colins elderly granny got to do with anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caliAl Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I have a Christian friend who believes that the whole Freemason thing is Satanic. He recons that they are involved (in the higher levels) in magic and a high percentage of those in Black Magic. Having names like Chief Wizard does not help either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Not taking the piss or being an arsehole, just curious... What DO the Freemasons do? What is there "prime directive" to get all trekky on you. And in my best monty python voice....what have the freemasons ever done for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 TLicense said: I thought hand guns were banned following, and as a result of, the Dunblane massacre. They were going to ban them anyway, they were just waiting for an appropriate attrocity to hide behind so that the law would pass easily (sort of 9/11) That guy was a weirdo and everybody knew it. They should had disarmed him long ago, but being the member of a private club it never happened. I don't see them disarming the yardies from their automatics though, that's not Politically-Correct perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 caliAl said: I have a Christian friend who believes that the whole Freemason thing is Satanic. He recons that they are involved (in the higher levels) in magic and a high percentage of those in Black Magic. Having names like Chief Wizard does not help either. Where the feck do you get Chief Wizard from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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