Bill Prawn Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 That's what muslim women wear isn't it? And some men, even Michael Jackson wore one once to go out shopping!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Is this ok? Surely this is worse than any cartoon. Exhibit A... these are extremists.... Hope they don't banter about pictures of skin heads with union jack bomber jackets, talking about the Holocaust didn't happen and the BNP etc. ..and think that's what we're all like..?! the media eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Don't see much mention from Muslims re: the Taliban destruction of the statues of Buddha. Was that not a case of defamation of a deity? Also, why are Christians not afforded the same freedoms in predominantly Islamic countries that are afforded Muslims over here? Religions. Should ban the lot of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Religions. Should ban the lot of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Prawn Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Religions. Should ban the lot of them. And join this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 That's what muslim women wear isn't it? only the fat, hairy ones. Although it's not inconceivable for men to also wear a burka, it's the perfect concealment thanks to the PC brigade. Pretty handy during exams too, as it's impossible to verify who is underneath:respekt: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Hope they don't banter about pictures of skin heads with union jack bomber jackets, talking about the Holocaust didn't happen and the BNP etc. I reckon skin heads have more sense that these protestors. It does go to show the tension in the world when things go this far. This doesn't read well...http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4684474.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 That comment of mine may seem flippant but I really do believe that they should be outlawed. Failing that then all religions should be observed behind closed doors with no public face. Basically, keep it in your places of worship and the rest of us will help mankind progress beyond the pettiness at the heart of all religions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Whilst I respect the fact some people need religions - Just out of interest I have no faith. I was once told by a Ghanaian JuJu' "believe in yourself before you go searching for something which may not be there, for you are here and now" how right he was. I would like to think those fanatics are able to respect those of us who choose not to believe in a supreme being and stop trying to force the will of others upon us. In other words if it is so bad here go live somewhere more conducive to your faith. I mean absolutely no offence to anyone I just needed to get that off my chest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I was once told by a Ghanaian JuJu' "believe in yourself before you go searching for something which may not be there, for you are here and now" how right he was. Was that down at The Lamb or something? I'd like to meet him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 No, it was in Ghana in the 80's!! During my 'heady' daze Full respect to him - bloody nice bloke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest faiz Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I absolutely disagree 100% with reglious violence of any kind. The biggest problem for me is that nothing is sacred any more. They published the cartoons, people got upset, so they published them again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 The biggest problem for me is that nothing is sacred any more. What I think is sacred is different to what the next fella thinks is sacred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra_Nish Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 What I think is sacred is different to what the next fella thinks is sacred. Obviously you have different beliefs but the point here is people know what is sacred to each other, as a "civilised" society does it make any sense to keep re-printing these pictures when it is obviously offending some of the population? Its probably a fair assumption the reaction from the first printing wasn't expected, but then to go and print again? Is the reason of "freedom of speech" being stretched just a little too far? Surely now it is being abused and being used as an excuse for being disrespectful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 does it make any sense to keep re-printing these pictures when it is obviously offending some of the population? According to this the British press and news are being uncharacteristically good about it. http://news.bbc.co.uk/newswatch/ukfs/hi/newsid_4670000/newsid_4678100/4678186.stm Interestingly it's not the first time it's happened : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/4406702.stm Check out this guy, justified to cause death over a cartoon? or f*cking nutcase? http://www1.stratfor.com/images/managed/3/4974.jpg Is it unreasonable to think along these lines? "This fella is a terrorist imposing his beliefs on us. Who the hell is he to tell me what I can and can't do." Disney is gonna be destroyed when they release this: http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2002/614/cu2.jpg (from : http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2002/614/cu5.htm) There's even a gang online against Denmark now - http://www.no4denmark.com (Sadly Babel Fish doesn't support this yet) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 So, they didn't like their prophet (and by extension their religion) being linked to terrorism but they then respond with threats of murder, holocaust and rioting. Oops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra_Nish Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 As said before, nobody is backing the violence. There will always be a small minority of any group which will resort to extreme measures. The point I'm making is it was obvious this was going to turn nasty after the first print of the pictures. Doing it again was just poking the hornets nest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Why did it need to turn nasty though? How many times have the Christian god and other religious figures been ridiculed in cartoons, jokes etc? Countless times I'd wager but do you see a p**sed off Christians, Catholics etc taking to the streets? NO! ..and why? Might it be that they are tolerant and open-minded enough to let it go. Unlike Muslims (even english born, white converts like an ex-friend of ours) who won't be happy until we all live in an Islamic theocracy with no freedom of expression, speech or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irfan_habib Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 So, they didn't like their prophet (and by extension their religion) being linked to terrorism but they then respond with threats of murder, holocaust and rioting. Oops. 'They' are only a very small minority of the Muslim population (the fundamentalists) and are in no way representing the teachings of Islam. It is a great shame that their reaction is tarnishing all Muslims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Why did it need to turn nasty though? ..and why? Might it be that they are tolerant and open-minded enough to let it go. Unlike Muslims (even english born, white converts like an ex-friend of ours) who won't be happy until we all live in an Islamic theocracy with no freedom of expression, speech or anything. have you actually read beyond the media crap thats always being put on the airwaves to help you become more "open minded"???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Why did it need to turn nasty though? How many times have the Christian god and other religious figures been ridiculed in cartoons, jokes etc? Countless times I'd wager but do you see a p**sed off Christians, Catholics etc taking to the streets? NO! ..and why? Might it be that they are tolerant and open-minded enough to let it go. Unlike Muslims (even english born, white converts like an ex-friend of ours) who won't be happy until we all live in an Islamic theocracy with no freedom of expression, speech or anything. main reason would be that the image of jesus on the cross is a symbolic thing for any christians.... pictures of prophets in islam....... IS NOT! ... thing most people are pissed about is linking the prophet to terrorism... insult to injury for publishing it a second time..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 have you actually read beyond the media crap thats always being put on the airwaves to help you become more "open minded"???? In the past I was open minded about all religions. Enough even to have spent time living in a Krishna temple. Now, I despise them all. I also don't read the mainstream press or watch television news. Don't be so quick to assume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 In the past I was open minded about all religions. Enough even to have spent time living in a Krishna temple. Now, I despise them all. I also don't read the mainstream press or watch television news. Don't be so quick to assume. ] i'm not assuming, if you "despise them all" then obv you'r not as "open minded" as you like yourself to believe.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I say we should all be Tibetan buddhists. Those poor b@stards had their whole land and country taken from them. D'you see them getting pissed off about it? Nah. They're chill. As an aside - there are such things as Tibetan Muslims too! - http://www.tibet.com/Muslim/tibetan-muslim.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Here's an interesting quote.. What I hope everyone remembers is that moderate Muslims represent the salvation of not only Islam, but world peace as well. America has been very clear in discerning our views on radical Islam verses moderate Islam. While we prepared for war against the Taliban and Al Qaeda we walked with Muslims to protect them from any out of control backlashes from people who cannot discern a radical movement from an ancient religion. Mark at Decision ‘08 also urges caution and says: We need not roll over and apologize for exercising our freedom of speech - but neither should we make a fetish of thrusting it in the face of those we wish to work with… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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