SupraStar 3000 Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 You have a keyboard with 104/105 keys on, what's the excuse now? I have stubby fingers! OK! Anyone else noticed e-mails english, grammar and punctuation seem to be steadily getting worse. In todays e-mail I have received: West wishes - Best wishes Have me asking you - Has asked me to ask you Scibbles - Scribbles ....all from clients Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 What about acronyms like LOL PMSL LMAO, are these acceptable? If so, why? Because people know what they mean which then leads to me to there are people who also know what txt u l8r (example) means. Acronyms save you lots of letters indeed over a complete phrase. Plus they were designed for Internet usage. Also acronyms are "valid" English language usage. Txt speak saves you a few letters over a word. PS I counted 105 keys on my keyboard but wont use quite a few of those to post!! You actually counted!? LMAO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 I have stubby fingers! OK! You know what they say about a man with stubby fingers? (other than he's a sh1t) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 You know what they say about a man with stubby fingers? (other than he's a sh1t) no, what! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 no, what! I've no idea...but I'm sure it's not complimentry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Surely we shouldnt judge people by how they write?? That is the only way too judge them though surely because you are not seeing them? I suppose i talking more about what people say as apposed to the way they say it but if someone comes out with a loads of c u 2moro etc etc its just annoying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 What is so bad about txt speak, labelling people by the way the write is just poor. As someone already said, on an Internet forum, we have no other basis on which to form our opinions of other people. Well, the only people I know who use so-called "txt spk" ARE idiots - they must be because they'll merrily text back and forth with this marvellously shortened mode of communication, costing themselves a fortune and ultimately taking longer than a quick phone call would have done. I don't want to read "txt" on the forum because I don't understand it. I don't WANT to understand it - how would you like it if I started writing in morse? It's not hard, yet I wouldn't expect everyone else to understand it, nor to spend the time learning it. English language, spelling and grammar is the way it is, and is unform across the whole world, because it enables people to communicate effectively. Change the spelling, change the meaning...or at least force people to decipher the meaning, which by definition reduces the efficiency and effectiveness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Acronyms save you lots of letters indeed over a complete phrase. Plus they were designed for Internet usage. Also acronyms are "valid" English language usage. Txt speak saves you a few letters over a word. You actually counted!? LMAO! I had too, it was the 104/105 thing - I needed to know!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 As someone already said, on an Internet forum, we have no other basis on which to form our opinions of other people. Well, the only people I know who use so-called "txt spk" ARE idiots - they must be because they'll merrily text back and forth with this marvellously shortened mode of communication, costing themselves a fortune and ultimately taking longer than a quick phone call would have done. I don't want to read "txt" on the forum because I don't understand it. I don't WANT to understand it - how would you like it if I started writing in morse? It's not hard, yet I wouldn't expect everyone else to understand it, nor to spend the time learning it. English language, spelling and grammar is the way it is, and is unform across the whole world, because it enables people to communicate effectively. Change the spelling, change the meaning...or at least force people to decipher the meaning, which by definition reduces the efficiency and effectiveness. LOL Making me out to be a bad guy here when all I am saying is that it does not bother me as to how people write and that I am not going to form an opinion of someone just on how they write. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 That is the only way too judge them though surely because you are not seeing them? I suppose i talking more about what people say as apposed to the way they say it but if someone comes out with a loads of c u 2moro etc etc its just annoying! I can understand if someone does not like this, but isnt what we type also how it is interpreted? I might mean something while the readers thing different. I type out fully anyhow so I dont know what my problem is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 I hit 666! Cool, its not 666 anymore though!! doh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 I can understand if someone does not like this, but isnt what we type also how it is interpreted? I might mean something while the readers thing different. I type out fully anyhow so I dont know what my problem is The things that you write are only subject to interpretation if you do not make yourself clear - poor writing skills. Oh, and from this and my previous post, you probably think I'm either some kind of pompous ass, or a grammar-nerd. You can't help yourself, but you've just formed an opinion of someone you've never met, based on fewer than two hundred written words. But hopefully that opinion isn't that I'm a "txt spking" prat, and that's all I care about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 The things that you write are only subject to interpretation if you do not make yourself clear - poor writing skills. Oh, and from this and my previous post, you probably think I'm either some kind of pompous ass, or a grammar-nerd. You can't help yourself, but you've just formed an opinion of someone you've never met, based on fewer than two hundred written words. But hopefully that opinion isn't that I'm a "txt spking" prat, and that's all I care about Actually believe it or not I havent formed an opinion of you until you tried to sub consciously tell me that you are a pompous ass!! LOL Seriously though, I think I have only formed an opinion of one person on this board and that flat4_ire, he is a pratt!! So am I weird for not judging people on here from what they type?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 I've no idea...but I'm sure it's not complimentry. I think its stumpy gloves!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannhauser Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Neil Peart (voted 'Best Rock Drummer' five years in a row) agreed to a competition in Modern Drummer to win his old drum kit. His condition was that any entrants had to write him an essay. His reason? Something like this: "If you can't be bothered to construct an answer carefully and take time over grammar and spelling, how careful will you be in contructing and executing your music? Chances are you will be equally sloppy and lacking in precision." I'm not sure that his reasoning is valid, but I like the cut of his jib. Personally, I think texting has a lot to answer for. It's too long-winded to type in anything complex, so it encourages us to use short, simple sentences and a very basic vocabulary. If you are doing that all day long, as many are, it must surely have an effect on your ability to switch into something a bit more sophisticated and adult. It's f**king baby-talk as far as I'm concerned. And see my signature for further comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 I had too, it was the 104/105 thing - I needed to know!! They're sold as that description. Not sure which key is missing on the 104 version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 And see my signature for further comment. Their Lot forbad: nor circumscrib'd alone Their growing Virtues, but their Crimes confin'd; Forbad to wade through Slaughter to a Throne, And shut the Gates of Mercy on Mankind, The struggling Pangs of conscious Truth to hide, To quench the Blushes of ingenuous Shame, Or heap the Shrine of Luxury and Pride With Incense, kindled at the Muse's Flame. Far from the madding Crowd's ignoble Strife, Their sober Wishes never learn'd to stray; Along the cool sequester'd Vale of Life They kept the noiseless Tenor of their Way. Yet ev'n these Bones from Insult to protect Some frail Memorial still erected nigh, With uncouth Rhimes and shapeless Sculpture deck'd, Implores the passing Tribute of a Sigh. 'Along the cool, sequestered vale of life/They kept the noiseless tenor of their way' (Thomas Gray,1751) 'i was like whatever lmao and he goes i told u once wont tel u agan lol' (half the population, 2005) To be fair they both make about the same sense to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Prawn Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 contructing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 I think I have only formed an opinion of one person on this board and that flat4_ire, he is a pratt!! Can't wait for him to see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 They're sold as that description. Not sure which key is missing on the 104 version. Thats it, I need to know as I won't be able to sleep! Thanks, I will be spending a bit more time at work tonight!! (not working of course!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Can't wait for him to see that. Yes, he is a firey one isnt he! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannhauser Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I put that in just to trick you into thinking that I'm mortal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I put that in just to trick you into thinking that I'm mortal. After the long Iran one which I must say was well put I was expecting a beefy response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboldham Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 dey kept d noiseless Tenor of thR Way. yt evn dEz bOnz frm Insult 2 protek som frail Memorial stil erected nigh, w uncouth Rhymz & shapeless Sculpture deck'd, Implores d paSN Tribute of a Sigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 dey kept d noiseless Tenor of thR Way. yt evn dEz bOnz frm Insult 2 protek som frail Memorial stil erected nigh, w uncouth Rhymz & shapeless Sculpture deck'd, Implores d paSN Tribute of a Sigh. Reads the same doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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