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Cylinder head bolts


Jake

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I always thought that our cylinder head bols were 'Torque To Yield' and not reuseable, right? The reason I'm asking is that in Toyota's Supra Engine Repair Manual it says :

Using caliper, measure cylinder head bolt diameter 2.0" (50 mm) down from bottom of bolt head. Replace cylinder head bolt if diameter is less than .421" (10.70 mm).

 

Does this mean I can safely reuse my existing head bolts and save myself £165 or is that an unwise gamble?

 

This engine rebuilding lark is a dear old game and £165 is not a saving to be sniffed at but obviously it would be a disaster if the bolts later failed.

 

 

Any thoughts?

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Ah bollocks, I knew you guys were going to say that :(

 

OK then, it seems that ARP head bolts are similarly priced to Toyota ones. Should I go for the undercut ones or are the vanilla ones more than enough?

 

I've found a place that stocks them

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From what I know of the ARP bolts, they can be torqued to a point where they provide the same clamp load as the stock bolts but without yeilding. This makes them reusable but beware: Torque tightening is a much less accurate way of spefiying a bolt's preload - which is the all -important thing on critcal fasteners like main and rod caps and head bolts. When torque tightening, the final preloda depends on many factors such as cleanliness, fit and straighness of the bolt, how the torque is applied, etc. With yeild tightening the final preload only depends on the material properties of the fastener and these can be directly quality tested by the manufacturer.

 

If the ARP bolts only give the same preload via a less accurate tightening method then I struggle to see the real world benefit. If they give more preload than stiock then I'd be worried about head warping and valve seating.

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From what I know of the ARP bolts, they can be torqued to a point where they provide the same clamp load as the stock bolts but without yeilding. This makes them reusable but beware: Torque tightening is a much less accurate way of spefiying a bolt's preload - which is the all -important thing on critcal fasteners like main and rod caps and head bolts. When torque tightening, the final preloda depends on many factors such as cleanliness, fit and straighness of the bolt, how the torque is applied, etc. With yeild tightening the final preload only depends on the material properties of the fastener and these can be directly quality tested by the manufacturer.

 

If the ARP bolts only give the same preload via a less accurate tightening method then I struggle to see the real world benefit. If they give more preload than stiock then I'd be worried about head warping and valve seating.

Well yeah but having "Stock head bolts" in my Sig's list of mods isn't going to impress anyone, is it!

:D

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[good humour - honestly]

Always glad to see a sound engineering argument get shot down in flames in the name of bling. :D I dunno. Fourteen years in the automotive engine design game and I still can't convince anyone. Maybe I should have been an artist. :)

[/good humour - honestly]

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