Supragal Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Not disputing that at all, just saying you have to stick to anything you change forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Peace Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Forgive me, havent read all the posts..too much energy involved having to click the mouse...so sorry if this has already been mentioned but I always use the stairs and not the lifts even if its 10 floors, also i use the stairs on tubes instead of the esculators...im back to the gym...well....Monday as having a detox first:p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 omg, i tried tuna for the first time last night (considering it has over 27g of protein and less then .3g fat per 100g)... i almost threw up after the first bite.... how the heck can anyone down that ... now i just need to find a good source of protein... Chicken breasts Turkey Bakes beans Milk Nuts "Ooo err" All good sources of Protein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 yep, out of the can ..... i've worked out i'll need to consume atleast 140g of protein a day.... yes, to build more lean muscle.... i'm already having 2 protein shakes a day... You dont need the shakes or that amount of protein......you will put strains on your liver and kidneys consuming that amount....your body will just dump what it does'nt need and you will usually piss out the excess All bodybuilders get sucked into believing all this protein is needed, these protein wonder shakes are loaded with sugar of all kinds and will end up worse case scenario making you diabetic (happened to a freind of mine)!! Stick to a balanced diet and add more calories to your diet for some bulk muscle, add vegtables and potatoes or rice for the extra calories, and loads of water.....2L + if you can manage it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra_Nish Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Mikey is right, that is alot of protein. Unless your a fairly advanced bodybuilder most of that will pass straight through you. If your starting off the main thing you need is calories, in the form of carbs. Shakes are good in moderation, but you need the right type. Those high in sugar really aren't good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Some good advice on here guys Started in earnest this morning - breakfast (at Belfast Intl departure lounge!) comprised of fruit salad and yoghurty cereal thing, eaten whilst the missus sat opposite with a fry-up. Evil woman. Personally, I'm aiming to lose a stone and a half for my wedding in April Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 How can anyone not like Tuna? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 no its just a really bland protein which you mix with skimmed milk.... has no flavours and is very low in carbs with very low fat.... i have plenty of chicken in my food range.... this is the first time i've stuck to excercise for so long (almost 7 months) and before this, i never jogged, did weights or anything.. (trust me, running 100meters was big challenge for me when i started.... i can go over 4km now without breaking a sweat).... motivation for me is seeing change, i love looking at myself every few weeks and seeing the diffrence... having said that, i still eat the same i always did... cakes, biscuits are my vice (i limit these now) .... but i drink loads of water during the day and atleast 1 liter when working out.... have 2 protein milkshakes... and 1 dose of creatine aswell a day... Im just looking to bulk up even more, and during the last few weeks/2 months before june (summer ) work more on definition (low weights, high reps ??)... interesting to see the varing points people have made ... keep it up folks ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra_Nish Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Im just looking to bulk up even more, and during the last few weeks/2 months before june (summer ) work more on definition (low weights, high reps ??)... interesting to see the varing points people have made ... keep it up folks ... Did/doing the same thing as you mate, on the definition bit now, going great on arms, shoulders, chest, legs everywhere, except my stomach! I used to have a solid six pack, jeez having difficulty getting that back after bulking up! One tip for you, keep doing work on your abs the whole way through, I left mine really late and paying for it now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Not disputing that at all, just saying you have to stick to anything you change forever. I agree if you have weight problems and dont like it you have to change your lifestyle permanently thats the only way to resolve it. My tip for cutting body fat is cardio exercise in the morning before breakfast that def works...and no carbs in the evening (potatos rice etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 How can anyone not like Tuna? cos it stinks!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptik Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Im now aiming for the 'bicep vein'. Its all to do with how lean your muscles are. Some people have them and hardly work at them at all. Others find it hard. Im the latter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptik Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 cos it stinks!!!!!!!!!! Mmmm, fishy.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Did/doing the same thing as you mate, on the definition bit now, going great on arms, shoulders, chest, legs everywhere, except my stomach! I used to have a solid six pack, jeez having difficulty getting that back after bulking up! One tip for you, keep doing work on your abs the whole way through, I left mine really late and paying for it now! Secret to a six pack is stripping the fat of your belly so the obliques/abdominals are showing, dont concentrate on the situps you need only do 2 sets of 20 twice a week if that...maybe 2 sets of twenty once a weeks (dont forget your abdominals act as stabalizing muscles when your benching, using the shoulder press etc so are constantly working therefore need little stimulation!!....if you can get more than 20 reps in each set put some weights on your chest while your doing them....anything over this you are building endurance and not muscle size/strength Everyone has a six pack but have a layer of protective fat covering the muscles so its not visable, concentrate more on your cardio to strip this fat away and I will gaurauntee you will see results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Mmmm, fishy.. minging..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptik Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Secret to a six pack is stripping the fat of your belly so the obliques/abdominals are showing, dont concentrate on the situps you need only do 2 sets of 20 twice a week if that...maybe 2 sets of twenty once a weeks (dont forget your abdominals act as stabalizing muscles when your benching, using the shoulder press etc so are constantly working therefore need little stimulation!!....if you can get more than 20 reps in each set put some weights on your chest while your doing them....anything over this you are building endurance and not muscle size/strength Everyone has a six pack but have a layer of protective fat covering the muscles so its not visable, concentrate more on your cardio to strip this fat away and I will gaurauntee you will see results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Ha Ha Mr motivator eat your heart out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra-alex Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 im a tennis player, play for 2-3 hours on concrete court not astro, that'll do you good. dont eat heavy carbs after 6pm ie.rice, potatoes (save them for midday) i eat chicken and vegetables in the evening. all the body needs then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra_Nish Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Yeah i know cardio is the only real way, I'm trying to strike a balance, get lean but not loose too much mass. Its trial and error at the moment, I've varied my bodyweight between 68 and 78kgs, trying to find a suitable middle ground. I'm lucky in that i can quite easily put on or shed weight as I've been training for a while so know what needs to be done. Abs are eluding me though, for example, i have the bicep vain, hell i have one going up the front of my shoulder in towards my chest, looks like a friggin cable delivering NOS or something! Its due to my lack of cardio, I only gave up smoking about 3 months ago, the whole running without keeling over after 2mins is still new to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I'm trying to strike a balance, get lean but not loose too much mass. Thats like finding the holy grail!!! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra_Nish Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Thats like finding the holy grail!!! :D In that case I think I'm lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisSZ Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 A decent mix of CV (cardio-vascular) work and ressistance/weight training works wonders mate:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shovels Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 You can also try doing resistance work whilst standing on a balancing platform (the ball with a plate around it - can't think of its name). Make sure the weights aren't too heavy cause your gonna be working much harder. This is great for working your core muscles (stomach, lower back, etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra_Nish Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 yeah seen the balancing stuff. It does work. I've started doing dumbell presses etc with my back on a ball, takes alot of concentration and works core muscles hard. Considering martial arts or similar if i can find the time. I have a 4 pack, though the middle two arent quite square lol, bottom two are MIA. Well, i'm exaggerating, they are there, just not as defined as I'd like. Not sure I'm willing to give up cakes and doughnuts etc for that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Not sure I'm willing to give up cakes and doughnuts etc for that though. This is the thing isn't it? At what point do you actually enjoy yourself... or even, what is more important... AND who are you doing it for? Why do men want a 6 pack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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