Wez Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 My DVD Player (Samsung HD950) has a built in scaler and outputs via HDMI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terawua Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 what about a decent AV amp which upsamples to HDMI.... like the top end Yamahas???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 My DVD Player (Samsung HD950) has a built in scaler and outputs via HDMI. Yeah I have the 950 and its great. Why would an Amp upscale? It already decodes 5.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 BTW plasma's showed up what a shitty format DVD is. Too much sound compression and iffy picture. Watch 1080 HD and you cant to back. Amen to DVD! How compressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Amen to DVD! How compressed Not a truer word said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terawua Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 sorry was talking about picture..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 Back on track for moment, he he he I have two mates with CRT panasonic televisions and they seem to take ages to power up and display a picture, is this the same with the plasmas. I might have to go and check these out at comets tomorrow, before this thread i was dead set on the LG now i am thinking i might go the panasonic route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Mine fires up in seconds.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Chief - has your plasma got 1920 x 1080 resolution then?! Didnt think they were out in this country yet, just in Japan currently and mega expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboldham Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Are plasma units rated as being better quality for a given size than LCDs these days? Or is it that 40+ inches with LCD is megabucks? Whats the max available resolution for plasma vs. LCD TVs? Cheers R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Chief - has your plasma got 1920 x 1080 resolution then?! Didnt think they were out in this country yet, just in Japan currently and mega expensive. nope, but that would be very nice, i am still on 1024 by 1024. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Thats the only way you're gonna truely appreciate 1080 high definition. 1024 square? Doesnt sound right, is it a TFT or sommat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 The hitachi 42 plasma def does have 1024x1024 as a native res, plus they will support 1280x1024 with the PC input according to the manual. The LG and Panasonic from what I can gather is def only 1024x768. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 The hitachi 42 plasma def does have 1024x1024 as a native res, plus they will support 1280x1024 with the PC input according to the manual. The LG and Panasonic from what I can gather is def only 1024x768. That sounds like monitor resolutions, not 16:9 (widescreen) res's, which is what im talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 I know, here is a snapshot from the Hit 42pd6600 manual that currys are selling for about £1300. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Hmm, well that doesnt look to me like it can properly support 1080 high def pictures. Do you plug it in to your pc? You should try it - i bet it'll look good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 Havent got one, still deciding which unit to go for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Heres a tip, dont look at Currys take yourself down to Harrods or some kinda large dept store like John Lewis - they have so much variety of these, see one you like then come back and search online for a cheaper price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Buckley Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 LCD is certainly the way to go at the moment...plasma still isn't either good or reliable enough to be worth spending such a huge amount on. Also, although loads of models say 'HD Ready', you can bet my Supe that when the analogue signal gets turned off and full digital HD comes in, you'll still need some sort of an adapter to receive full HD signals and decode 'em perfectly. Let's face it, if you buy either an LCD or a plasma now, the reliability and maintainability issue probably says that you'll be replacing it in 5 or 6 years anyway, at which time full digital & HD will be the norm, and you'll be able to buy a 'proper' TV for a reasonable price anyway. TVs don't last 10 or 12 years anymore like they used to.... The issue with contrast is more to do with visibility in full daylight than anything else (the brighter the ambient light, or the more direct any sunlight is on your screen, the harder it is to get a good contrast pic., i.e., everything will look 'washed out' or very pale in bright daylight the lower the contrast ratio of the TV). I just bought (30 Dec) a Bush LCD27TV005 (yeah yeah, so it's not a Pioneer or a Sony, but it's also not at the Pioneer or Sony price) 27 inch LCD flat panel from Argos, reduced from 999.99 to 499.99, and including a free stand (nice quality too) worth 79.99. Not 'HD Ready' but a great deal if you're happy to replace it with a real HD TV in 5 or 6 years time. It's sad but true that most big retailers WON'T offer you that hated '3-year extended warranty' deal on plasma boxes.....they also know that reliability with these is such a problem that the insurance deal is a no-goer for them. Caveat emptor I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Of course you'll need a HD digital box of some kind from Sky/Cable companies to process the signal and send it into the TV, but the more expensive sets do support the resolutions that HD display in, most likely at the lower 720 res. Its only the real high end 1080 sets that are mega expensive as these have just started to come out in Japan. You've got a point though, a lof of the older style LCD/Plasmas are being badged up to support HD but if you do your homework you shouldnt get caught out. Prices are coming down big style this time next year there'll deffo be some real bargains about. I see your 'putting it off' idea.. some like tog et stuck straight in there As for reliability, both technologys have been improved on and I've seen guarantees of 60 thousand hours on some LCD TV's - thats pretty good (last just under 7 years if watched 24 hours a day give or take) These are the modes you should check to see if the set you buy supports: 720p - 1280x720 pixels progressive 1080i - 1920x1080 pixels interlaced 1080p - 1920x1080 pixels progressive -Apprently provides a much smoother picture, but uses slightly more bandwidth so I guess this depends if the broadcasters bother to output this format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Buckley Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 As for reliability, both technologys have been improved on and I've seen guarantees of 60 thousand hours on some LCD TV's - thats pretty good (last just under 7 years if watched 24 hours a day give or take) Don't think this is a guarantee Bobbeh, but maybe a quoted MTBF or MTBR figure....this is like stereo manufacturers quoting their speakers at Peak Power or Peak Output Power...nothing to do with the 'real world' expectancy. Can you let me know of either a plasma or LCD model that actually offers you a 7 year guarantee out of the box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIL Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 This is another argument to go DLP! If the plasma or LCD screen goes pop then kiss goodbye to it! Not nice after spending hard earned cash on it, plus the stores are charging premiums for extended warranties as they expect the units not to last. With DLP your main worry is the bulb, (same old 60,000 hours expected life) however if it does go pop £300 and your back up and running for another 60,000 hours. Other advantages are the greater screen size, plus no screen burn. I have seen so many plasmas with screen burn that I went straight off them. Whats the point in concerning yourself with HD definition if you have other images burnt into the background of your screen! I appreciate that you need the room to house a DLP but if your looking for a large HD screen that will be round long enough to watch HD when its widely available I would seriously consider DLP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I think my plasma will last a very long time. It gets used about 1 to 2 hours per day, so i expect a long life. Hitachi reckon it lasts as long as a crt tv, but time will tell. Still, the only way to pick is with your eyes. Picking a plasma off a data sheet is like picking speakers out of a catalogue. My dad has LCD and IMO the picture looks false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 Apparently John Lewis give you a 5yr warrenty on the Panasonic and they will price match if you can find a better deal else where. Looking on AV forums this is what people have been doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Are plasma units rated as being better quality for a given size than LCDs these days? Or is it that 40+ inches with LCD is megabucks? R The general consensus on avforums seems to be that over 42" LCD still doesn't cut it against a decent plasma so stick to plasma, but under that the LCD is as good as if not a smidgen better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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