suprasport Posted December 16, 2005 Author Share Posted December 16, 2005 how long did it take you to prep it mate? as im considering having a go at doing mine too (ill practice on my mini first tho). hi mate, it took about a 10 days but that was due to the bodykit being the biggest load of crap ever, but other than that it took just over 2 days. ps. paint it black, much easier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 ok its going like shit, paint has reacted with something overnight its showing up like scratches and cracks, also around the edge of some filler, had a bloke round who used to do it for a living suggested using a stopper/sealer first, allthough couldnt suggest why it had reacted, everyone says i have done it right its just one of those things. one good point he was very impressed with the actual spray job . anyway paint shop sold me some primer/filler and suggested that i take it right back down as it will have to much paint on and will never seal and probably sag, allthough he phoned his expert who said that i should just very lightly sand with 800 to 1000 grit and go straight to basecoat, but i am not sure if he realised how many layers it has on at mo. tested the primer on a dash part i was having problems with and that was fine but another piece reacted again. also there has been no reaction on primer or basecoat just the pearl. got to get it right this time as they have run out of paint and i am out of patience and the will to live what should i do, have no problem with the spraying just the method now. The scratched look around filler etc is usually down to the prep, it sounds like you didn't spend enough time making sure you eradicated all the course sanding marks out of the filler, did you guide coat it after priming? its quite common, its very easy to think you have got rid of all the scratch marks once you get the primmer on, and the trouble is you don't notice it until you have got the lacquer on and it has dried, from you pics it look like you have done a good job! did you get the doors etc to match ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesupratt Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 oh, you didnt use 2K primer...that'd do it probably! Tricky is spot on! primer etc has the ability to make your work look fantastic, but its only when the paint job is done, EVERYTHING shows up! sanding scratches! bits that arnt flat etc etc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted December 16, 2005 Author Share Posted December 16, 2005 The scratched look around filler etc is usually down to the prep, it sounds like you didn't spend enough time making sure you eradicated all the course sanding marks out of the filler, did you guide coat it after priming? its quite common, its very easy to think you have got rid of all the scratch marks once you get the primmer on, and the trouble is you don't notice it until you have got the lacquer on and it has dried, from you pics it look like you have done a good job! did you get the doors etc to match ok? used a black guide coat, the marks are not in filler its the feathering, but i understand what you are saying, allthough it was flattened back again after first attempt as well, and didnt show after the first time, didnt do doors as the lot needed re-doing so will put them on this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 used a black guide coat, the marks are not in filler its the feathering, but i understand what you are saying, allthough it was flattened back again after first attempt as well, and didnt show after the first time, didnt do doors as the lot needed re-doing so will put them on this time Ahh right, in that case i think you may have either over thinned or you have put a coat of primer or base on too wet/heavy, that has a tendency to bleed into the feathered edge of old paint, there are two ways to get around this, one is to use isolator on all the repairs, or the alternative is to spot prime the repair with a couple dry coats first, but this way there is still a risk:yes: anyway good luck i hope it all comes good, and remember even the pros cock it up from time to time:yes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted December 16, 2005 Author Share Posted December 16, 2005 Ahh right, in that case i think you may have either over thinned or you have put a coat of primer or base on too wet/heavy, that has a tendency to bleed into the feathered edge of old paint, there are two ways to get around this, one is to use isolator on all the repairs, or the alternative is to spot prime the repair with a couple dry coats first, but this way there is still a risk:yes: anyway good luck i hope it all comes good, and remember even the pros cock it up from time to time:yes: thanks for advice just finished priming (with 2k this time) tested a piece earlier doing various things to see what i did wrong and it only reacted when i drenched it in paint, so to quick between coats allthough did wait stated time will leave another 10 minutes this time around. so far so good though. think it might be a few degrees cooler than the stupid thermometer is saying as well, which i believe will effect the flash time. anyway the real test will be tomorrow so keep your fingers crossed for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keron Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 colour wise is similiar, but it stops there. this will lokk loads better do your self a favour and put the doors etc back on before you finish it off as you wont get the colour right if you have painted them off the car as like someone said before it needs to be from the same batch etc but more importantly you have to keep the flow of the paint constant.....apply it slightly more in one area and it will look totally off colour! and the reaction is where you have applied too much lacquer in one area and its reacted with the top coat. you will have to nib it back to the base coat and re-do it again......this paint is the worst paint to apply....but its worth it in the end. good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted December 17, 2005 Author Share Posted December 17, 2005 no painting today, electric went out in garage outbuilding ok, so been prepping bumper, inside and outside of bonnet etc. will spray those tomorrow and do the shell and doors monday. good news is everything is ready and not a mark insight, i never want to see any sandpaper again in my life, hands are bleeding from blisters and cracking. the sand and buff can wait till after christmas posted by keron this paint is the worst paint to apply now you tell me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesupratt Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 The key is patients! thats all you need! several dust coats, letting them flash off properly in between, rather than wet heavy coats! just take your time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted December 17, 2005 Author Share Posted December 17, 2005 The key is patients! thats all you need! several dust coats, letting them flash off properly in between, rather than wet heavy coats! just take your time! believe me, i am going to take so much time i'm taking a sleeping bag with me :zzz: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesupratt Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 you needs to let the solvents evaporate...therfore, less chance of reaction! Good luck fella! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted December 18, 2005 Author Share Posted December 18, 2005 no reaction, so far so good thanks for all the advice guy's btw mesh not fitted properly yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesupratt Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 Nice one! Look forward to seeing it complete! Now you have the fun of flatting and polishing! Any questions...do ask! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stylieee Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 looking good! youve inspired me to deffinately have a go at doing mine. so what bodykit have you fitted? did the sides need blending and if so how difficult was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Lookin great mate... hope it all turns out well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted December 20, 2005 Author Share Posted December 20, 2005 quick update everything has been rubbed back down, all bits put back together and will be spraying the lot tomorrow morning. btw thanks for the comments, bodykit was a nightmare mate. all will be revealed friday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesupratt Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Rubbed back down? you're doing it again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted December 20, 2005 Author Share Posted December 20, 2005 Rubbed back down? you're doing it again? never got around to shell and doors, for third time. did bonnet and front bumper etc. but nobody has got the blue tint for my paint and was 1/2 litre short. so had to go for a different brand. hence spray the whole lot again. what a comedy eh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesupratt Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 ah man! wouldnt it have been better to wait until tint was available! paint, on paint on paint etc will make reaction more likely! not definate by any means, but more likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 ps. paint it black, much easier noo!! is it buggery! besides, black is hard to keep clean!! looks nice when waxed though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted December 20, 2005 Author Share Posted December 20, 2005 ah man! wouldnt it have been better to wait until tint was available! paint, on paint on paint etc will make reaction more likely! not definate by any means, but more likely it had only had the one coat on bonnet etc. shell needed doing again as you know so no big deal anyway, shell hasn't been touched since it reacted apart from being prepped took it right back to toyotas original primer in most places at least. had to because it felt like i was bodging the job. piece of mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted December 20, 2005 Author Share Posted December 20, 2005 noo!! is it buggery! besides, black is hard to keep clean!! looks nice when waxed though! hey what do i know mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesupratt Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 oh cool! i thought you'd repainted the shell again since the reaction! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 good work suprasport Been following this thread, and looking forward to the finished job. Wish I had your ability and confidence to do a DIY paint job. All I ever get is orange peal and drips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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