suprasport Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 Good lad, happy for ya! you wait till you get it outside! it'll be full of dust, but thats where a good bit of flatting and polishing comes in! how many coats of lacquer did you use? managed four coats mate. thinking that should be ample on pearl. iv just noticed as well...where are your doors? doors, bonnet, roof, boot, and spoiler are ready for tommorow. there easy now compared to shell :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesupratt Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Yeh man! that amount of clear will be fine! im just worried, that when you normaly paint the panels seperate from the shell with a pearl such as this, they tend to look slightly different! as when the sunlight hits them, although they have the same paint on them, painted the same way, with the same gun, the particles wont be sitting exactly the same way on the panels as the shell, so may look a slight shade off! But on the other hand it may be fine! sorry, sounds a bit of a downer, just thinking out loud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 Yeh man! that amount of clear will be fine! im just worried, that when you normaly paint the panels seperate from the shell with a pearl such as this, they tend to look slightly different! as when the sunlight hits them, although they have the same paint on them, painted the same way, with the same gun, the particles wont be sitting exactly the same way on the panels as the shell, so may look a slight shade off! But on the other hand it may be fine! sorry, sounds a bit of a downer, just thinking out loud! whoops. i appreciate all comments mate, glad you told me, maybe i can take that bit extra effort spraying the doors in as close a pattern etc. as the wings. fingers crossed eh!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 this sounds very bad to me..... i thought pearls had to be complete when sprayed. tt steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 this sounds very bad to me..... i thought pearls had to be complete when sprayed. tt steve this is probably a thick question but how would i spray inside the doors and pillars at same time, door hinge side etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 all bits off, final coat all bits on........... lacker.....errrrrrrr dont know. looks good any way matey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 trying to think of a pearl paint job on pimp my ride. cos they paint bits off and sometimes on........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 shit does this really mean i need to do all again ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 shit does this really mean i need to do all again ? no no no. i dont think, ive never sprayed a car. i hope not any way mate for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 this sounds very bad to me..... i thought pearls had to be complete when sprayed. tt steve yep Pearls need to be applied from the same mix and batch, same direction of sray so that its an even effect - see how it comes out mate....see iof it requires doin again...may be ok! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 i hope not any way mate for you. not half as much as me mate starting to wish i had payed someone to do it. It has gone on ok apart from a large bit of dust in pearl on wing that is bugging me, but maybe worrying about nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 yep Pearls need to be applied from the same mix and batch, same direction of sray so that its an even effect - see how it comes out mate....see iof it requires doin again...may be ok! suppose it would be easier to spray doors and try them at this stage, and respray if not ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 spray other bits off, then final pearl when fixed masking rest??? at least direction in the way the paint will lay down will be the same. then i supose u would have to take back off to lacker. Sounds like a western supermare to me..... i would pray for you tonight if i believed in any thing. tt steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesupratt Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Theres nothing you can do now mate, but you can actualy get the gun in the hinges and shuts enough to reach them with the doors on, then close the doors and paint the entire outside of the car together! it maybe ok, fingers crossed! Or, I paint the inside of the door, and the hinges, and the inside of the door pillar, let it flash off, the pop the door back on, close it and paint the side of the car! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted December 15, 2005 Author Share Posted December 15, 2005 ok its going like shit, paint has reacted with something overnight its showing up like scratches and cracks, also around the edge of some filler, had a bloke round who used to do it for a living suggested using a stopper/sealer first, allthough couldnt suggest why it had reacted, everyone says i have done it right its just one of those things. one good point he was very impressed with the actual spray job . anyway paint shop sold me some primer/filler and suggested that i take it right back down as it will have to much paint on and will never seal and probably sag, allthough he phoned his expert who said that i should just very lightly sand with 800 to 1000 grit and go straight to basecoat, but i am not sure if he realised how many layers it has on at mo. tested the primer on a dash part i was having problems with and that was fine but another piece reacted again. also there has been no reaction on primer or basecoat just the pearl. got to get it right this time as they have run out of paint and i am out of patience and the will to live what should i do, have no problem with the spraying just the method now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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black cat Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 shit dude, you must have spent along time doing this now. id leave it for a couple of days to see what happens to the paint before you put the pearl on. how much wood some one charge you to spray it if it goes wrong, again.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted December 15, 2005 Author Share Posted December 15, 2005 how much wood some one charge you to spray it if it goes wrong, again.? don't know mate, and out of the question, would be a right kick in the bo**ocks if i don't do it myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 don't know mate, and out of the question, would be a right kick in the bo**ocks if i don't do it myself. just go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted December 15, 2005 Author Share Posted December 15, 2005 just go for it. cheers mate just not sure what to go for not sure if it will take more layers on top or to take it right back down. its got 15 coats on now applied over last 3 days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 cheers mate just not sure what to go for not sure if it will take more layers on top or to take it right back down. its got 15 coats on now applied over last 3 days you need a pro's advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 give house of kolor a call tomorow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesupratt Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 If you want any advice, give me a shout. these reactions arnt uncommon. normal caused because the solvents havnt been released properly from each coat of paint. either due to your coats being to heavy/wet, and not letting each coat flash off properly before applying the next one. Can also be due to poor basecoat thinners, but unlikely. what stage are you at now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprasport Posted December 16, 2005 Author Share Posted December 16, 2005 cheers mate, glad you replied has given me that bit of confidence, that i am getting it right. have just left it today give it time to harden as much as possible, and got on with prepping everything else, finished inside doors, and boot. had a feeling it was the to much to quick, kinda got carried away with myself. and i was using cheap primer apparrantly, didn't know there was a 2k. blame paint shop for that one as they knew the score (first time etc.) and told them i wanted best of everything. but lesson learnt pretty confident know though, gonna flat it back but keep a layer of clear then thin layer of primer and away i go oh and test a bit first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stylieee Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 how long did it take you to prep it mate? as im considering having a go at doing mine too (ill practice on my mini first tho). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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