toyotasuprauk Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 I sold my old mobile phone on ebay and the auction ended today. In my advert the postage costs were shown yet I still got four e-mails asking for the cost of postage! Then as I understand Rosie has also experienced I recieved this tonight: Hello, l happy to the winner of your auction item. l lived in UK , but am presently in Bangladesh on a special assignment. Pls, let me have your full name, address, contact phone number and the cost of shippintg to Nigeria, cos am buying for my son in Nigeria University as a gift................ So l can pay you immediately thru Uk Postal Order...... which is fast and reliable.. Hope to hear you soon... I thought it was strange his address came through as 3,Southend Essex, Essex What a waste of space these scammers are ebay really need to make it harder to get an ebay account! :thumbdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voo51 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 i hate it when that happens, but nothing can be done about them, its so unfair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disrupta Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Happened to me for my lap top bastards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markrzs Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 The kind of people really get on my nervs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 I understand that sounds totally dodgy but how do they scam you, are they wanting to send you dodgy postal orders or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelfill Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 You can always offer a second chance to the next highest bidder. (assuming you had one) Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyotasuprauk Posted December 2, 2005 Author Share Posted December 2, 2005 I have offered a second chance to the next bidder but not got a response yet. Luckily they were only £5 less than the Nigerian. Rayman I'm not sure exactly how the various scams work, some are very clever but yes its normally dodgy/fake/stolen postal orders or cheques, money from bank accounts where phissing has been used etc. Either way you end up with payments not clearing etc normally after you have posted the item. Lots of the other scams are ways for them to get money out of peoples bank accounts were phissing has been used without being traced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1980 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Damn, I thought this thread was gonna tell me how to get hold of a Kermit or Gonzo on the cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffvalenti Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Postal orders are a pretty safe bet. Take them to the post office and cash them before you send the item. Once they've been cashed theres no way the Post Office can get the money back from you. If they won't cash them because they think that they are fake, then don't send the item. Its a win/win situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraHuman Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Damn, I thought this thread was gonna tell me how to get hold of a Kermit or Gonzo on the cheap ahhhhh...Gonzo,what a legend.Fearless muppet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Rayman I'm not sure exactly how the various scams work, some are very clever but yes its normally dodgy/fake/stolen postal orders or cheques, money from bank accounts where phissing has been used etc. Either way you end up with payments not clearing etc normally after you have posted the item. Ah right thanks:eek: Also remember be weary of paypal too, if the buyer pays with a fraudulant card, (check they are verified) your payment will almost certainly be cancelled even if you have removed the money from your paypal account. I had this done to me after i mailed an item to the USA. Basically i no longer post to anywhere but the Uk anymore, too many scammers , they can get away with it easier abroad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 they can get away with it easier abroad! Cos you can't go round their house and shit through their letterbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Postal orders are a pretty safe bet. Take them to the post office and cash them before you send the item. Once they've been cashed theres no way the Post Office can get the money back from you. If they won't cash them because they think that they are fake, then don't send the item. Its a win/win situation. Yep, I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 i hate it when that happens, but nothing can be done about them, its so unfair.There is an area of the auction where you can specify what regions of the world you will ship the item to - select "United Kingdom" only. As a double security measure, also make it extremely clear that you will not send the item outside of the United Kingdom within your auction details - something along the lines of "Will only ship to the UK. Will not ship anywhere else - especially Nigeria!". If you do this, and some numpty still tries to scam you, simply report them as a non-paying bidder, I forget the exact reason but there is one specific to "buyer wants item shipped to a region not offered by seller" or similar - choose this. eBay will look into it and suspend/delete the offending account and refund any fee's your out by. I've had this happen on two of my listings, and in both cases have had no problems whatsoever with how eBay have dealt with it. Usually only happens on high profile/high value goods - things like phones, computers, TVs etc. Although increasingly, any item is being targetted more recently. For the scammers, it's a case of "lets bid on 100 things, one idiot out of that lot is bound to fall for it". I work in eCommerce as an industry, and the amount of fraud through all facets is incredible, and currently there is virtually no defense for the merchant/seller, it all favours the buying "victim". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyotasuprauk Posted December 2, 2005 Author Share Posted December 2, 2005 I did put on the ad UK bidders only but they still bid! I was so annoyed yesterday that when they said please give me a price for shipping to Nigeria I said it would be £85. I got an email today saying: Thanks for the reply, l never knew posting to Nigeria will be that high, but l'll still go ahead and effect payment cos of the father -son tie. l'll effect the the payment and they 'll notify you by your email. Hope to hear you soon.... So you really think I should accept the postal orders they just cant be geninue. No one would pay £170 for an old phone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I did put on the ad UK bidders only but they still bid!I didn't mean that this would prevent them from bidding, but it gives you just cause to report them if they do bid, and is the quickest and most protected method of getting rid of them and hopefully their account too. eBay seem to recognise these types of bids as scams more readily by doing as i've mentioned, and should hopefully speed you onto being able to relist or offer as a second chancer. So you really think I should accept the postal orders they just cant be geninue.No, don't even reply to them at all, at the very least it could be someone farming email addresses to put you on some spam list - don't give them the satisfaction, just get the account closed and get on with your day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyotasuprauk Posted December 2, 2005 Author Share Posted December 2, 2005 I think your right Jay. I did report them to ebay yesterday and they wanted the e-mail headers, all that sort of stuff but I haven't heard back from them yet. The scam could be anything it could even be a way of getting your e-mail address and obviously ebay user name so they can try and get into your ebay account? I just got another email from him as so far I have pretended to think they are genuine. l'll pay you thru Bidpay Postal Order in which u will recieve the money in 2-4 working days........... Bidpay will notify you thru your mail when l effect the payment, it's secure and reliable.. The shipping address is. AYODEJI O .O IBRAFUND BUILDING , MKO ABIOLA WAY, RING ROAD, IBADAN, OYO STATE NIGERIA....... Pls, let me know if l 'd go ahead and effect the payment.. Hope to hear you soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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