TRD3000GT Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 Ok, Im going to sell my turbo as is... I cant be bothered to get it all fixed up and sell it as new. So offers NEAR £250 for a turbo that NEEDS A REFURB before its used! I think thats a fair price? The turbo is a BL T67 P Trim with a .68A/R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Right my turbo is being removed from my car on Christmas when I return and having it sent off to be completely re-furbed as it has some play in the compressor wheel and I feel its only a matter of time till it blows! I remember a few of you asking me to keep you in the frame for it so here is that message Either way Im getting it 100% re-furbed to sell AS NEW... My new turbo is water cooled as well Which I think is something that is SERIOUSLY needed as the BL's tend to have a very short shelf life if used daily and they are not water cooled as well. CJ and Terry have modified both of their turbos to be oil and water. CJ After he blew his up. While my old turbo is being refurbed Im going to get it modified to be water cooled as well.. Obviosly at further expense. Ill be selling it for £850 and it will be like new and modified to be both Oil and Water cooled. Let me know people EDIT.. Oh yea its a P trim so spools V Fast... Chris I am responding here as you locked the other thread before I could answer. I have not modifeid my turbo. Its as I bought it from BL. It uses a Garrett cartridge which are water cooled. You and CJ are the only two people to have a issue. CJ's did a good few thousand miles and then went soon after an engine rebuild. Generally if a turbo is built wrong they will go very soon after being installed. Also if you do not prime them properly when installing they won't live long. Anyway, all the other BL turbos are going strong AFAIK. Hope that clears things up a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 As a quick question off topic, what do you mean by priming the turbo?? Also TRD what cost have you been quoted to refurb your tubbie, and add water cooling to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supradibbs Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 i think what Terry means is pumping oil through the turbo before you run can be done by removing coilpacks plugs and fuel pump connection and i belive by putting you finger against the blade preventing it from turning it just stops the turbo from running with no oil when you first install it well i guess that is what he means hahaha Terry can explain it better than me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymanuk Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Hi Chris, Very interested but what what sort of shelf life can I expect from this after a refurb? Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Shelf life? Well if you leave it on the shelf it'll last for ever Mines been running for a year no probs...but I don't overboost it. With Oil only cooling it's important to make sure the EGT's have dropped right off before switching off....that's all...ie USE A SODDING TURBO TIMER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymanuk Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Alex:- Shelf life? Well if you leave it on the shelf it'll last for ever Thats cool I have a turbo time already. What boost you running at Alex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Just to clarify that my turbo "went" due to running excessive boost and not due to poor installation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Started off under wastegate only 1.06bar now I'm running 1.24 peak via an EBC...I would go for 1.4bar (that's the aim) but now the weather has turned nasty I'm not in the position to test it so easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymanuk Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Just to clarify that my turbo "went" due to running excessive boost and not due to poor installation. How excessive CJ? Also would this turbo last and be fine for a daily drive too? What would the maximum boost that this would run comfortably with a decent life expectancy? Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 How excessive CJ? Also would this turbo last and be fine for a daily drive too? What would the maximum boost that this would run comfortably with a decent life expectancy? Cheers, CJ ran upto 1.9bar. The compressors are most efficient at 1.4bar. IanC runs 1.4bar, I'm working up to it, Terry runs 1.4...etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 CJ ran upto 1.9bar. The compressors are most efficient at 1.4bar. IanC runs 1.4bar, I'm working up to it, Terry runs 1.4...etc Thanks Alex. If ever I need a new secretary or PR chap I will give you a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymanuk Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Thanks Guys you have been very helpful, but I have one more question How quick does this spool and what RPM are you at? Thanks, Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Thanks Alex. If ever I need a new secretary or PR chap I will give you a call. Well you took too long No wonder you needed so much boost - to keep up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Thanks Guys you have been very helpful, but I have one more question How quick does this spool and what RPM are you at? Thanks, Ray T67's should hit full boost at about 3600-3800 in 5th (1:1 gear) on a 6-speed manual. (with a pull from 2000rpm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Well you took too long ... You sound like my ex wife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-No-Knee Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 What flang is on this turbo, and would it be the same as on a HKS (GARRET) 30/37s kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Anyway, all the other BL turbos are going strong AFAIK. Yes indeedy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 What flang is on this turbo, and would it be the same as on a HKS (GARRET) 30/37s kit? Pretty sure it is a T4 with V band outlet, Andy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRD3000GT Posted November 28, 2005 Author Share Posted November 28, 2005 Terry, I dont really know to be honest.. I have been using mine at 1.4 bar and it has occasianally peaked at 1.5 .. Im going to have it further tuned and Im not going to be using the Motec to contol it after the new year.. Im getting a new blitz controller. I think Im going to go for an oil and water cooled turbo next time round.. Possibly even a DBB.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 How much shaft play are we talking here ? Some side to side when not running is normal ( not masses) and in and out is a no no. Any sumptoms of oil by-pass? Blade chaffing on housing ect ect ...may give the prospective byer a clue to what dinero its going to cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRD3000GT Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 Just had a look before I left at 7 am this morning.. The centre needs to be replaced.. The shaft is bent and thats why it was being ill yesterday... Im going to look in to the price for a complete new centre to the turbo.. The housings are fine.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 What the heck would bend the shaft like that after such a short time ? Back pressure ? BOV not working properly ? Just fishing here...Curious to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 What the heck would bend the shaft like that after such a short time ? Back pressure ? BOV not working properly ? Just fishing here...Curious to know. probably excessive heat - oil starvation? Chris you do know the BL and SP use exactly the same turbo's dont you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRD3000GT Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 Yes I do.. Both precision turbos... Im having the oil line checked out and trying to decide what to do next.. Im thinking that it was exessive heat and thats why im going the oil and water cooled route.. Also I was using it at 1.4 bar daily basis which might have been a bit too much ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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