GeordieSteve Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Yeah I totally understand where Class One is coming from.... but at 14, if you had of asked me if I would like to shag her I doubt you'd need to ask twice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Change the gender around so that the teacher was male and the child female but the same circumstances - how would you react then? From a male perspective it seems very different but if it was a girl the bbs would be going down the line of hanging the male teacher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 From a male perspective it seems very different but if it was a girl the bbs would be going down the line of hanging the male teacher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 She was in a position of trust and she (eeeermmmm....) blew it. I agree. It was unprofessional and stupid on her part, same stands for the people who hired her to teach young boys. Were these people on crack? Yes she's got psychological issues etc. But FFS it's not the same as abducting and raping toddlers, let's put things into perspective, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 It was unprofessional and stupid on her part, same stands for the people who hired her to teach young boys. Were these people on crack? But FFS it's not the same as abducting and raping toddlers, let's put things into perspective, eh? Fully agree. I bet £20 that the lad doesn't look a day under 21. Gaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 err, its under age - perspective sorted. Illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Wait til you get a young un of 14 who looks 18 and experiences the same thing - go around and smash the teacher up, I would assume so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 But FFS it's not the same as abducting and raping toddlers, let's put things into perspective, eh? I would agree that this case is not as horrific as something like that but am wondering at what age people would consider it to be a serious offence? If the boy had been 11 would that have been bad? 12? 13? Where would you draw the line and say that it was definitely wrong? Also, why do people see this crime as being gender specific? By that I mean (and as others have already pointed out) if it was a 14 year old girl it seems as if the majority would consider it a serious crime but not for a boy. (edit to add) I have a 14 year old son who is 5' 9" and physically quite mature but I know he is not emotionally mature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 I bet £20 that the lad doesn't look a day under 21. Gaz. I'm sorry but how he looks is irrelevant! She knew he was 14! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 (edit to add) I have a 14 year old son who is 5' 9" and physically quite mature but I know he is not emotionally mature. EXACTLY. I know when my brother was that age, ok fine he wasn't still playing with lego but he wasn't mature in any sense of the word. I think the bottom line is that he was 14 she was 25. Yeah it might seem like every young lads dream but look at the bigger picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Off with her head then She contaminated and desecrated a fine, umolested example of purebred american male. For free, lol.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Off with her head then She contaminated and desecrated a fine, umolested example of purebred american male. For free, lol.... That doesn't really answer my questions though eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 I would agree that this case is not as horrific as something like that but am wondering at what age people would consider it to be a serious offence? If the boy had been 11 would that have been bad? 12? 13? Where would you draw the line and say that it was definitely wrong? Also, why do people see this crime as being gender specific? By that I mean (and as others have already pointed out) if it was a 14 year old girl it seems as if the majority would consider it a serious crime but not for a boy. (edit to add) I have a 14 year old son who is 5' 9" and physically quite mature but I know he is not emotionally mature. I was just thinking the same. I'd say 'on average' 14-15 for boys - 16-17 for girls Actually, this is harder than I thought,... maybe 17-18 for girls. Jeeezee,.. I just don't know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 I was just thinking the same. I'd say 'on average' 14-15 for boys - 16-17 for girls Actually, this is harder than I thought,... maybe 17-18 for girls. Jeeezee,.. I just don't know! It is interesting to note that you would have the girls at a much higher age and yet it is generally accepted that emotionally, girls mature far quicker than boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Maybe we should get the government to lower the age to 13 and then it would work out acceptable that an 11 year old gets his way with a fit teacher....... after all its only two years away from being legal and the kid looks at least 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 err,.. yea,.. like I said, its a hard decision to make. Don't agree with myself now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 But FFS it's not the same as abducting and raping toddlers, let's put things into perspective, eh? Of course it isn't the same - Literally! But the crime is still the same - she had sexual relations with a minor. Pure & Simple. And in the eyes of the law (british law that is) the crime she comitted was rape. Obviously, the first thing that popped into my head in the first 15 seconds was "Wow! Lucky sod ... performing the wild mumbo and the hunka-chunka with a 11 years senior pretty woman." But that's just joking but it's a serious matter. If he were my boy, I wouldn't think of it as a joke or something to be proud of. They're isn't no if's, no buts, No gray areas. No pithy or glib remarks that the crime she committed isn't comparable any other sex crime. The bottom line is she's a danger children. I personally, don't think that a paedophille can stop re-offending: Mira Hindley, Ian Braidy, Sydney Cooke, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiefvinso Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Of course it isn't the same - Literally! But the crime is still the same - she had sexual relations with a minor. Pure & Simple. And in the eyes of the law (british law that is) the crime she comitted was rape. Obviously, the first thing that popped into my head in the first 15 seconds was "Wow! Lucky sod ... performing the wild mumbo and the hunka-chunka with a 11 years senior pretty woman." But that's just joking but it's a serious matter. If he were my boy, I wouldn't think of it as a joke or something to be proud of. They're isn't no if's, no buts, No gray areas. No pithy or glib remarks that the crime she committed isn't comparable any other sex crime. The bottom line is she's a danger children. I personally, don't think that a paedophille can stop re-offending: Mira Hindley, Ian Braidy, Sydney Cooke, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Dont quite understand the article on this link http://www.tampabays10.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=19071 why do they take naked pictures of the accused? And why is it standard practice? Weird legal system in FLorida obviously. JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyotasuprauk Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 I'm not saying what see did was right, but there is no way you can class it as rape! Someone is legally old enough at 16, irrelevant of how mature they are. This guy could have been as physically and mentally mature as a 17 year old, looked like a 21 year old and continually flirted with his teacher and made all the first moves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 looked like a 21 year old and continually flirted with his teacher and made all the first moves? and as a person in a position of responsibility should have told him to take a running jump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 IMO ridiculous cases like this one dilute the seriousness of real rape cases. I find this one really tilting a bit towards sexual harassment and less towards rape. The woman has problems and shouldn't be allowed to work with children, that's for sure. But RAPE? It's like those half-naked drunken slappers having casual sex in nightclubs and next morning claiming they were raped. Crying 'wolf' for no good reason only lessens the impact when a real wolf appears. Rape is a serious crime, and now the 'do-gooders' want to spap the label on whatever they can get away with. I disagree, that's all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 why do they take naked pictures of the accused? And why is it standard practice? Weird legal system in FLorida obviously. JB It's for identifying marks JB... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 I'm not saying what see did was right, but there is no way you can class it as rape! Of course you can! He's under 16. So, yes it is classed as rape. Plain & Simple. Hmmm - so you pick up a girl at nightclub. You sleep with her - and in the morning she says she's late for school because she's got a GCSE maths exam? What do you think the police are going to charge you with ? Statitory rape ? This guy could have been as physically and mentally mature as a 17 year old, looked like a 21 year old and continually flirted with his teacher and made all the first moves? Then it's not rape. Because he's over the age of consent. Simple enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 I disagree, that's all... That's your perogitive. But you're still wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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