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I think there should be a distinction between forced sex on an unwilling participant, and having sex with both parties horny and willing --- yet legally not allowed to do it.

(There are sick people who routinely have sex with women in mental asylums. Even mortuaries.

Who's gonna believe a mental patient anyway?

Even if they are not minors, this is still breach of trust and rape, taking advantage of the mental condition of the patient)

I don't see things as black and white, sorry. The truth is usually somewhere in-between, that's why we should not allow trials by jury to be canned.

 

There are women who do their homework and find rich candidates then seduce them and have sex with them. When they ask for favours later, if the man refuses to budge they go and report 'rape'. They have 'proof' as well.

Consenting adults? Not if they don't agree on the price in the morning, lol...

 

I don't see this as black and white, not at all. That would be far too easy.

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I didn't understand that comment - are there other pictures of her somewhere?

 

yes, click some of the links that others posted (think JB put one up) it's not pretty. but then I guess that points towards the intentions of the newspaper (possibly) by using a fanastic picture. in most child abuse cases they use the worst possible one they can find, not the best.

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Don't know about the rest of you - but when I was in school, was 13 or 14years old - our class had RE lessons with a teacher called Miss Roberts.

 

I do distinctly remember her sitting on desks, wearing short skirts that was maybe 2 inches above the knee - whilst teaching. I remember it because all us lads enjoyed going to her lessons.

 

Looking back now, I think that was inappropriate behavior. But back then - I didn't think any of it. Didn't think there was anything wrong with it ... back then I and 13 other lads just enjoyed the view.

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Yes Christian..but if she had come onto you and had sex...you might of been tramatised by it...depends on our own progression at that age I suppose!

 

I agree..that there is such a grey area when it comes to the age of consent..I remember a girl coming onto me years ago from Weybridge, she looked about 22..and eventually it turned out she was 15..needles to say i steered clear of her! but she was taller than me and even looked older than me then!

 

She lied and told me she was 18 (I actually thought she was lying and that she was older than that)

 

If I had had sex with her I could of been banged up..luckily enough I didn't fancy her anyhow!

 

Such a huge grey area in the law..i wouldn't term inyone in those circumstances as being a Nonce, but the Judge and jury might!

 

The thing about this case is the teacher, abused her position, had she met him through other circumstances..nothing would of happend!

 

My opinion is that with unique cases like this they should be dealt with in a unique way..

 

There is no easy answer..it sounds like a case of consential sex, its not exactly rape..rape is when someone forces someone else to have sex..but I think in this unique case it should be based on the maturity of the 15 year old after psychological reports have been made. (as it should with any case like this if someone is only just below the age of consent)

 

Confusing though

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female teacher showing off flesh to male students on purpose...how unprofessional.

It takes all sorts I suppose.

 

It's been 14 years since I was at school .. so I would hope they'd have a stricter dress code now.

 

Personally - I don't think school is the place for a female teacher to be flashing her nice set of long pins. Not being a prude - or anything against women showing off ... only there's a time & place and school isn't one of them.

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BUT, this all started with Class One flying off the handle at us for 'laughing' at the rape victim,.

 

I didn't "fly off the handle", just merely pointed out that although its quite amusing that a 14 year old boy has had sex with his hot teacher, there is actually a more serious side to this which has, in fact, opened up a healthy debate and some have aired some "interesting" views.

 

I'd like to point out that in the UK, that although the age of consent is 16, if you are over 18 and in a postion of trust over a 16 or 17 year old and have sex with them, you commit an offence. (teacher, social worker etc)

 

There also used to be a statutory defence in law for men upto the age of 24 that if they had sex with a female under 16 but over 14 they could state that they thought the female was 16 or over. That got reppealed in the 2003 Act.

 

I don't really think there's a moral debate here. She was his teacher and he was a pupil in her care.

 

I'm also amazed that some think that there are degrees of paedophilia. Like its okish to have USI with a 14/15 yr old? A paedophile is someone who is "sexually attracted to children".

 

Gary Glitter is a paedophile. He is sexually attracted to children. Yet he was convicted of possessing and downloading indecent photographs of children. He was never convicted of having sex with a child.

 

As I said before, she was probably every lad in that class wet dream. But there's a massive gulf between being a wet dream and being the reality.

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I'm also amazed that some think that there are degrees of paedophilia.Like its okish to have USI with a 14/15 yr old? A paedophile is someone who is "sexually attracted to children".

I'm amazed that you're amazed. It makes perfect sense to me.

To me, an 18y/o boy shagging his 16y/o girlfriend doesn't make him a paedophile. But if he were her 40 y/o teacher....

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I'm amazed that you're amazed. It makes perfect sense to me.

To me, an 18y/o boy shagging his 16y/o girlfriend doesn't make him a paedophile. But if he were her 40 y/o teacher....

 

You're right Jake, But I didn't say that did I? An 18y/o b/f shagging his 16y/o old g/f isn't a crime, as he's not in a position of authority over her. There's the rub which I thought I'd clarified earlier.

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Now thats what you call proper sex education, beats them crappy vids we had to watch at school :D

I think its easy to get on a high horse about this one, at the end of the day very few of us chaps here (except I suppose the fairyboys :limp: ) at 14 would have tore ourselves away from her, and as for the 'what if it was your boy'... well I dunno, he could have done a lot worse ;) I was no angel and I don't think many are. Just can't understand why he let the cat out the bag, I would've kept that one going for as long as possible ffs.

It hardly sounds like she cornered him and forced him to let her suck his dick repeatedly inbetween screwing him at various times :rlol: Oh the envy! :eyebrows:

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Class One

I'm also amazed that some think that there are degrees of paedophilia.Like its okish to have USI with a 14/15 yr old? A paedophile is someone who is "sexually attracted to children".

Originally Posted by Jake

I'm amazed that you're amazed. It makes perfect sense to me.

To me, an 18y/o boy shagging his 16y/o girlfriend doesn't make him a paedophile. But if he were her 40 y/o teacher....

You're right Jake, But I didn't say that did I? An 18y/o b/f shagging his 16y/o old g/f isn't a crime, as he's not in a position of authority over her. There's the rub which I thought I'd clarified earlier.

 

Perhaps I should have put '15y/o girlfriend' not 16. Would our hypothetical 18y/o be a paedophile then, in your book?

 

I read your "I'm also amazed..." paragraph to mean that it was seperate from the postition of authority point.

 

If you are 'amazed that some think that there are degrees of paedophilia' that implies that it's a black or white thing to you, correct? I don't believe most folks see it like that.

 

 

ps

(this is a discussion not an arguement, OK? I'm not looking for a fight)

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How old was her Guide Dog?

 

What in Dog years? dunno but it was good in bed:shrug:

 

Seriously I looked at about 15 when I was 22!

 

Do ya know what Jake! (off topic slightly) I actually got asked for I.D in WHSmith the other day when i bought some cigars...really made my day (until the bloke behind me in the que started laughing!)

 

Any way..Hows the grey hair coming along Jake? or has it fallen out yet?

:haha: :gayfight:

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I actually got asked for I.D in WHSmith the other day when i bought some cigars
You're kidding! lol! Nice problem to have mate

 

Hows the grey hair coming along Jake? or has it fallen out yet?
I have got a few grey ones now actually. I don't think I will go bald though, I'm 40 now - surely baldness would have started by now if it was going to happen?
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