SupraStar 3000 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Soon to be getting a Topsecret II Carbon bonnet and need advise on pins. Has anyone experience with these, good or bad advise etc etc. Easy to install? My biggest concern is drilling through a nice new carbon fibre hood. Really not looking forward to that Isn’t Carbon fibre like glass, so has a tendency to shatter? all info appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edd_t Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 this is a mod im planning next year so am also intrested... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supRo Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Mate, If that's the one from Whifbitz (Seibon), then no, you don't need pins. I've had mines 150 leptons +, no problems. You get a slight flutter on the bonnet but no problem. They use only the rear hinges, the hinges in front of the rears come off. I think it's best to use washers on the hinge bolts so you can adjust slightly. I'm sure Paul will advise you better, he fitted mines! Play with the bonnet stop rubbers on the front to get the bonnet to rest nicely. They don't come with washer jets and I didn't want the trouble of removing the jets and hoses from my stock bonnet. I bought and fitted twin nozzle jets and hoses from Halfrauds, about ten quid for everything. Cheers, Ro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 Mate, If that's the one from Whifbitz (Seibon), then no, you don't need pins. I've had mines 150 leptons +, no problems. You get a slight flutter on the bonnet but no problem. They use only the rear hinges, the hinges in front of the rears come off. I think it's best to use washers on the hinge bolts so you can adjust slightly. I'm sure Paul will advise you better, he fitted mines! Play with the bonnet stop rubbers on the front to get the bonnet to rest nicely. They don't come with washer jets and I didn't want the trouble of removing the jets and hoses from my stock bonnet. I bought and fitted twin nozzle jets and hoses from Halfrauds, about ten quid for everything. Cheers, Ro Thanks. A VERY helpful post. Much appreciated mate Yes, its a Seibon. Whats the carbon fibre weave pattern like on yours? Any pics Think I’ll do without pins for awhile and fit a few cable ties just incase the latch brakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supRo Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Thanks. A VERY helpful post. Much appreciated mate Yes, its a Seibon. Whats the carbon fibre weave pattern like on yours? Any pics Think I’ll do without pins for awhile and fit a few cable ties just incase the latch brakes. Weave is very good. I don't have close up pictures I'm afraid. I don't particularly like the look of pins, and I really dont think you need the cable ties either! It uses the stock catches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 Cheers Ro, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Sorry but really really have to strongly disagree here Do not fit any C/F bonnet without pins - from wherever and whoever... These can and will flex and you run the risk of them flying up onto the windscreen - this has happened twice now with people I know...no comment on the make etc, could be any Just be safe etc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 so Paul, will the carbon shatter if I drill it? Whats the secret to installing the pins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Get them professionally done m8 - not a big job but has to be done well Give Victor at GVN a call... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sooper-supra Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Pins do look good imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted November 23, 2005 Author Share Posted November 23, 2005 Agree, pins look great but I need alittle technical knowledge on installing them. Somebody must know!! Can I drill through carbon without it shattering? Paul, Do your Carbon pins you sell through the website have instructions regarding achieving professional holes without damaging the hood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub_Culture Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Yes you can. I did this with my carbon bonnet on my Rex. Just do it at a very very slow drill speed, and ensure you put masking tape onto the bonnet before you go drilling. Exactly like when you drill a hole in a number plate. If you need further advice, feel free to PM me. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted November 23, 2005 Author Share Posted November 23, 2005 Thanks Andy Much apprecaited mate. Don't suppose you have any pics do you?? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub_Culture Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Hmm, not sure? Might have! Will have a look later tonight or tomorrow. have to take the boy to see Harry Pothead later (lets be honest, flying on broomsticks, dragons chasing you? Sounds drug influenced to me), so will try to remember after that! Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supRo Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Hmm, not sure? Might have! Will have a look later tonight or tomorrow. have to take the boy to see Harry Pothead later (lets be honest, flying on broomsticks, dragons chasing you? Sounds drug influenced to me), so will try to remember after that! Andy Obviously JK Rowling was smoking a reefer when she was reading Lord of the Rings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Huntley Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Ill do them for you if you fancy a trip up to Envy. I must of done 10+ now without any problems. Or if you buy a bonnet from us I can supply a one pre-drilled to save you the hassle. I can also fabricate you some brackets to sit on your inner wings, for the pins to sit into. Have a look at some engine shots of the Envy Supra and you will get the idea. I have supplied these in kit form for other Supra owners if you fancy a go yourself. Hope that helps Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted November 23, 2005 Author Share Posted November 23, 2005 Thanks Kevin. It was Envy I'm looking to order through (Gav knows the details ) Think I'll go for a pre-drilled version and fabricated brackets too. I'll confirm that when I order. http://www.envyperformance.com/images/maxmag/engine.jpg Cheers, Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Paul, Do your Carbon pins you sell through the website have instructions regarding achieving professional holes without damaging the hood. Any good bodyshop (or Kevin...!) knows how these are done These boys are excellent and are also lockable.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted November 23, 2005 Author Share Posted November 23, 2005 thanks Paul. How much are those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 still need to know if carbon can be drilled without splintering/cracking etc! I was going to have it pre-drilled but Gareth quite rightly pointed out, it is impossible to gauge the mounting points on the car. back to square one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Edd, you know i said i want to be there wen you get the wheels,.......... i dont want to be there wen you do this. mind you i can help you superglue all the shards of carbon fiber back together. good luck mate tis gona look sweet. tt steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 lmao mate You'll be alright Steve. Just keep the engine running and the drivers door open. When I shout "Fcuk, it bust" run like hell to your car and get away as fast as you can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black cat Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 lmao mate You'll be alright Steve. Just keep the engine running and the drivers door open. When I shout "Fcuk, it bust" run like hell to your car and get away as fast as you can lol,,,,,,,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURT Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 Any good bodyshop (or Kevin...!) knows how these are done These boys are excellent and are also lockable.. I bought a seibon bonnet from paul whiffin too but it did need pins! it did have the bonnet catches in it, but still needed pins to hold the corners down nice and snug, i bought the pins that paul E sells, they are fantastic!! and dont look out of place as they Are carbon too. it took all day to fit them as had to make some ally brackets to fit them to on the slam panel, the carbon bonnet is easy to drill but make sure you use a sharp drill bit and use masking tape to mark out the holes. it will not shatter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted December 4, 2005 Author Share Posted December 4, 2005 Thank you Burt. Thats the same hood im going for. Looks ace on a silver car doesn't it mate Right, borowing my dads dremel and buying a new drill bit. Just need to order the hood and pins. Are those pins like this one (attached) and are they real c/f because they look fab. BTW: How did you fix the brackets to the bodywork? I bought a seibon bonnet from paul whiffin too but it did need pins! it did have the bonnet catches in it, but still needed pins to hold the corners down nice and snug, i bought the pins that paul E sells, they are fantastic!! and dont look out of place as they Are carbon too. it took all day to fit them as had to make some ally brackets to fit them to on the slam panel, the carbon bonnet is easy to drill but make sure you use a sharp drill bit and use masking tape to mark out the holes. it will not shatter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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