supna Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Had a thought last night regarding induction kits. Recently I fitted an Apexi Induction filter to by NA. Problem is that it pulls in the air from basically inside the engine bay. My thinking is, is it possible to build an enclosure for the filter and run piping from the air con and fill the enclosure with nice ice cold air controlled from in the car. This way the filter will be drawing in nice cold air which I hear is much much better. Only problem is would the benefit be 0 because when the air con goes on you lose power but will it be made up by the increase of cold air being drawn in. Am I taking complete shit or does this sound half logical? I know I could just reroute the filter to draw air in from the outside but I figure the loss in an indirect air flow would reduce power as well and also I think the air con would be much colder than the outside air. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Laws of thermodynamics apply still, sorry You won't be getting something for nothing so you'll end up with a net loss of power. -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 I don't think the AC could process enough air for the engines requirements, especially at WOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supna Posted June 19, 2003 Author Share Posted June 19, 2003 Cheers Peeps, just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Have to agree with the others. I have however looked at freezing the IC pipe to the throttle body in an attempt to dramatically bring down charge temps. Down side is the bottles are very expensive & don't last long. Get a nice big FMIC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 good thought though mate, worth thinking about...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust2luv Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Originally posted by Terry S Get a nice big FMIC. For an SZ?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 LOL that'll teach me for not reading it properly. Would look better though;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 oh yeah just seen that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Sandham Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 It would take an air conditioning unit the size of a small truck to cool the volumes of air that an engine takes in.....The weight there for would negate the gains Go faster bullet holes in the body work (Simpsons style) - now thats a street cred mod. Neil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 but if you owned a Turbo then surely it would work a little bit? You wouldn't just have a sealed box with a pipe in from the A/C. You would have say, a cold air box, a feed from the A/C and a feed from the bumper. Would that not be better as it would be putting in colder air aswell as what would normally be going in? Then again isn't the air from outside cool enough? We are in England!!!!! Nahh, bad idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust2luv Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 In theory you'd be a little better off having the AC going into the engine bay, than into the cabin, but you'd be better off still just turning it off! Ya canna change the laws of physics Jim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Laing Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 i don't think anyone would bother trying it like! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 The AC system disengages at WOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Very good point Martin. Mine can be speed selected though;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith C Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Isn't it the new Lightning pickup that uses the aircon to create a 'reservoir' of cold air while just cruising around, and then when it's floored dumps the reservoir onto the intercooler to give extra cooling/power for a short while? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4 SUP Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Supna. Did fitting the Apexi induction kit make any difference either in performance or sound? What is the part number and where did you get it from? Ian Aerotop n/a Veilside Powerflow and loving it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
400BHP Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 WTF is WOT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bromy Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 Originally posted by 400BHP WTF is WOT? Wide Open Throttle / or FMB ( Foot Mashed Baby ) _____________________________________ nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 This thread on Supraforums may take the ideas further. http://www.supraforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=128134 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
400BHP Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 Martin How'd you find that!! That looks pretty "cool":eyebrows: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Speed Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 Liquid Nitrogen is what you want:D One thing that puzzles me is people who polish all the piping between turbos and throttle-body. It may look pretty but it would work better in matt-black (under-bonnet aesthetics not my thing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 Wouldn't the matt black absorb underbonnet heat...? -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Speed Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 Now we're into a whole discussion on under-bonnet temperature differentials. You wouldn't polish the radiator would you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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