Steve W Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 Gentleman phoned me at work tonight and asked if 'we' could fit an engine in a car for him.... "Maybe, what car, what engine ?" ---"It's a Supra" "Oh, really , what model ?" "The new one" "What, mkIV ?" "Yep, I've got a TT engine and a N/A car for it to go in" "NO, sorry 'WE're not up to fitting that...too many 'extras' to change /alter, we only do straight swaps or 'normal' swaps" He proceeded to ask who/how much etc. I told him to log-on HERE to check and why not 'join' and ask himself BUT, in case he's 'lookin' but can't be bothered.... WHO could ? How much ?.... let-alone is it possible/cost-effective ? {Leon ?...Chris ?...} I forgot to ask if both were same trans' ! Has anyone here actually done it ? [i would assume...ECU/loom? and obviously all bits like manifolds etc, but what 'tricky' bits ?] I KNOW the best answer is "SELL IT, BUY a TT" but I assume he has an immaculate/late/lowmiles N/A and a good TT engine ! ! FatS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 Wouldnt bother me too much , a lot of work but i did manage to fit a 7.8 litre engine in a ford zodiac , it would all depend on what the guy wants to spend . john:flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 It can be done but IMO too much hassle. List of other components that will need upgrading that maybe he hasn't thought about : Brakes - preferable but not essential ECU and all engine bay looms Need front plastics for SMIC or go straight for FMIC Diff Radiator If his NA is a manual it would be best to replae the box because of the ratios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted June 3, 2003 Author Share Posted June 3, 2003 THAT's good Martin.... told him I/WE'd 'list' the essentials/preferables to give him a TRUE idea of problems ! ! Did any later N/A's have the bigger brakes ? Is box/diff USABLE even if low-geared ? RAD's different ?? OF COURSE !... no I/C on the N/A.... deerrrrrrr:music: (SO, all piping etc) as I said, he MAY have the complete donor car, but it's still a lot of transferal work ! [ PERHAPS (if the TT's not crash-damaged!) it might be cheaper to go the 'other-way' ] ps.... should ONE have used the patented "MARTIN-F-SEARCH-BUTTON" for this queery....... I DO apologise Mr. Moderator (you don't have to wear a Green-short-legged-Leotard to get that title do you ? ? ) Mr. FatS-tastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 Originally posted by Steve W ps.... should ONE have used the patented "MARTIN-F-SEARCH-BUTTON" for this queery....... I DO apologise Mr. Moderator (you don't have to wear a Green-short-legged-Leotard to get that title do you ? ? ) Mr. FatS-tastic I may have to moderate your posts if you insist on sharing your fantasies with us. I'm sure most of the parts are useable if far from ideal. I'm not aware of any NA's coming with larger brakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust2luv Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 Originally posted by Martin F I'm not aware of any NA's coming with larger brakes. Twas an upgrade option on the NA I think, mine's got them on the front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 I would suggest to him to sell the N/A and buy a TT, it will be a fraction of the cost of converting. Unless someone offered serious hourly rates and a free hand to take as long as the job needed wiothout hassling, moaning, pulling out part way through i wouldn't want to touch such a job. I KNOW how costs can get out of hand with such swaps if a high standard is to be maintained. With huge respect to whoever he is most people ain't got a clue how much swaps like this can cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted June 4, 2003 Author Share Posted June 4, 2003 YEAH, that's what I thought, it's only that it sounds like he's got a 'spare' engine and a car that needs one ? ! BUT, you're right, the number of customers who phone us and want a 1.8 Diesel Ford engine shoved in their 1.6/1.8 Mondeo, or, a 2.5Di to replace their 2.0OHC Transit ! ! "Yes Sir, the engine will be ~£1,000...but the labour and additional parts will probably RACK-UP to about £2,000 ! ! !" I do realise the answer is ALWAYS "sell and re-buy" or rather "buy the right thing in the first place"... {except Fiesta 1.1-to-1.3, Escort/Mondeo1.6,1.8,2.0 ZETEC etc, ie. 'semi'-identical units with minor fuelling bits:sly: "NO, Mr. insurance person, I never had the engine changed.... that's how I bought it....." } Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Pilot Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 Only the proper 'FAST' ones do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthrokka Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 Thought of that when i got me N/A 31/12 coz it was really in good nick, genuine low mileage (checked) etc.. Thought of putting a single GReddy Turbo etc.. but what u gain in power is not what could get in a TT stock ! So, depending of what this guy's story is ... it could be somink that came for free or a very very cheap deal so .. can't blame him for trying tho' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mos Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 The power you can get from turbo'ing an N/A is again proportional to the cost. If you spends your moneys then you can get big power if you try and scrimp then its probably bye bye engine, yes you can fit a bigger gasket but to do it correctly you should carry out piston work and all the other factors soon make it unreasonable. A few people state side have gone N/A-T but as yet i know of no UK driver who has done so. As i say some N/A-T guys are putting down big power but look at cost sheets and its high and everybody says it cost more than expected, i would say if you can only afford the job then you cant really afford it, as something always bites you in the ass. I looked into putting a single on my N/A but all the parts would need to be imported so theres customs to add to that as well, decided its not really worth it. However if you had both cars just sitting there and lots of time then it would be worth it. Imagine having to change the loom extend wiring mate everything up and then when you turn the key - it doesnt start cos a sensors packed up oh the agony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Pilot Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Originally posted by mos . A few people state side have gone N/A-T but as yet i know of no UK driver who has done so. As i say some N/A-T guys are putting down big power . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted June 6, 2003 Author Share Posted June 6, 2003 DOM ! ! you're not gonna' ? ? ? (don't tell me.... you've nicked a Turbine off one of the Jets ? gonna' be the first Rolls-Royce-Supra in England ? ? PRATT & whitney ? British ARSEospace ? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Pilot Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 Too late matie.... BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID.....:eek2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted June 7, 2003 Author Share Posted June 7, 2003 what.... WHAT.... WHAT.... ? ? ? come on... TELL US ! ! ! ( or, show me Big-Boy ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mos Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 Pilot Were you on the supraforums a few months back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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