carl0s Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 I have complained about my lack of light for some time, and accidentally ended up on some HID sites just now. Can't remember why or how.. I think I have concluded that a 6000K low-beam would be okay, but I just have one question.. If someone wanted to upgrade their whole lighting to HIDS, would they have to buy two different kits and have four ballasts under the bonnet? That sounds like a lot of metal boxes to hide away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Normally Carl0s people dont use HIDs on the Main beam. They take a while to 'warm up' and the flash is usually quite short (i can PM what i mean if you like) i have low beam, 6000K HID units, and the difference is amazing! speak to Nic on here, he can get them for you, and at a pleasant price - no cutting/chopping required and to fully answer your question, yes 4 ballasts for 2 sets, each bulb unit requires a ballast for the crazy voltage required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted October 24, 2005 Author Share Posted October 24, 2005 Ah.. I like the no-cutting ones - just been looking at them. That's great then. So I'll do my low-beam and I'll be able to see. I was coming home (to Manchester) from Ilkley in West Yorkshire today and the tomtom took me up a huuuuuge hill and through about 5 miles of seriously narrow winding dark track.. that'd be great if I could've seen! thanks for your advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 If someone wanted to upgrade their whole lighting to HIDS, would they have to buy two different kits and have four ballasts under the bonnet? Yes. And be very careful buying aftermarket HID kits. A lot of them are shite and /or counterfeits. I would only buy ones from personal recommendation as a lot of folks have been, frankly, ripped off. I've gone for some of the ones from Nic as I know he won't see us wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Ah.. I like the no-cutting ones - just been looking at them. That's great then. So I'll do my low-beam and I'll be able to see. I was coming home (to Manchester) from Ilkley in West Yorkshire today and the tomtom took me up a huuuuuge hill and through about 5 miles of seriously narrow winding dark track.. that'd be great if I could've seen! thanks for your advice. yeah - quite literally, my main beam makes no real difference to the distance i can see (it basically illuminates the area to the right in front of the car) - its fantastic - main beam, fogs and hids is awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted October 24, 2005 Author Share Posted October 24, 2005 Yes. And be very careful buying aftermarket HID kits. A lot of them are shite and /or counterfeits. I would only buy ones from personal recommendation as a lot of folks have been, frankly, ripped off. I've gone for some of the ones from Nic as I know he won't see us wrong. I had thought there was quite a bit of variation in the kits out there and over on eBay. I think I'll give Nic a PM right about.. now. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 I wouldn't touch the eBay ones with your bargepole. My HIDs from Nic should be arriving this week. I'm planning to do before and after photos and a small review. I'll let you know if they're worth the £306 If it ever stops raining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 I wouldn't touch the eBay ones with your bargepole. My HIDs from Nic should be arriving this week. I'm planning to do before and after photos and a small review. I'll let you know if they're worth the £306 If it ever stops raining Have you gone for 6000K or ~4100K Jake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Have you gone for 6000K or ~4100K Jake?Given a choice I would go for 4100k/4200k but Nic was only offering 6500K. 4200k are apparently, from what I've read on the specialised lighting forums, the whitest/brightest you can get. They say that going further up the kelvin scale just makes them more blue, or eventually purple, but gives less actual illumination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Peace Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Yes. And be very careful buying aftermarket HID kits. A lot of them are shite and /or counterfeits. I would only buy ones from personal recommendation as a lot of folks have been, frankly, ripped off. I've gone for some of the ones from Nic as I know he won't see us wrong. I agree with Jake (unusual for me:stickpoke ) buy carefully...as some of the ballest units with some kits are vulnerable to water ingress and often will only last 3 months, although fitting them where they are vulnerable to water can increase the risk (on cheaper units) dont fit them under the headlight units, and make sure they are well insulated from water...especialy on cheaper units! Dont bother with high beam...its pointless, and it created allsorts of ghost electrical probs when someone tried to fit four on my car..so i now just have the two...always good to purchase an extra spare bulb..coz they do go!!!! Also..I reccomend the UK glass headlight units make sure the sills are ok and dont let in condensation..as this caused one of my bulbs to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 I agree with Jake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Peace Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 lol what u still doin up Jake ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Unemployeed mate Got sod all else to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Unemployeed mate Got sod all else to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Peace Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Unemployeed mate Got sod all else to do Aww soz to hear that... im sure it wont be for long though! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk-rich Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 i have head lights and fog lights in 4500k, and they are very very good, the higher the k rating just makes them more blue, not brighter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashpoint Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Got a set of Nics HID's on mine, They do make a huge difference, more so on reflective signes as they light up from about 4 times the distance. Don't use my fogs at all now where i did before the HID's were in. though std fogs and HID low beam look stupid as there a differernt colour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 TBH the 6500k kit I source is not that blue compared to some of the other kits I've tested, in comparison they are more like 5000-5500K, ie. white with a hint of blue. I tested loads of kits on my car, from various suppliers to see which gave the best nighttime visibility. There was a huge difference in illumination between some of the kits and the majority of the cheap kits I tried were absolutely crap. The kit I decided on, was not the cheapest by any means, but gave the best performance, included a 1 year warranty (teh only one that gave a warranty in fact) and seemed the best value for money. The members in the recent group buy should receive theirs this week, so hopefully there'll be some more independant feedback, for anyone else considering fitting an HID kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 dont fit them under the headlight units, Where should one then install the them...? Also looking forward to receiving Nic's supplied HID. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 I've got one of Nic's kits fitted and I'm well pleased. As for where to fit the ballasts, o/s is fairly easy, gap between the wing and the top of the suspension (although I've fabricated a flat plate out of stainless so I don't have to drill the bodywork) The n/s is more of a problem, currently double sided to the front of the battery:thumbs: I was gonna make a bracket to mount under the headlight but reading previous posts about keeping dry this might not be such a good idea? I might now try fabricating a bracket to mount it vertical infront of the battery area? I must point out that there is some room on the inside of each wing towards the front that seems ideal until you look above and realise that the ends of the wing 'water channels' are directly above so there is a good cahnce that water could run off and soak them if mounted here!! Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 anyone got photos of where to install these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 No mate, not a permanent fixture on mine yet. If you post a pic of an engine bay then I'll circle the areas:looney: Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Found one (yours I believe:clap: ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 i have head lights and fog lights in 4500k, and they are very very good, the higher the k rating just makes them more blue, not brighter where did you get HID foglights from? Nic, can you supply foglight sized kits, in 6000K please? facelift headlights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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