Pete Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 I made sure your name was on it not mine anywhere, it's badged as the club and linked to this thread too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Tone how comes you didn't put the money you saved on doing this job yourself into a set of spangly new HKS cams? Good werk fella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerotop Dave Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 LOL well because I was taking my time, and as you can tell, taking lots of shots with the camera (There's quite a few that didn't make it into this thread!) it took me close to 20 hours to do the job. I should think if I were to do the job again it would probably take me about 10-15 hours. So I can see how pofessional mechanics who are charging £50-60/hour can charge £600 for the job, then there's the price of the parts on-top. Personally I wouldn't charge anyone beyond £300 plus parts, at the end of the day it's just spannering and being methodical about how you work. I've just asked my usual garage for a quote for this so we'll see, but I vaguely remember Dude charging £400 for it (that could be wrong though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 He'd probably do it a bit quicker though as he's done so many. I don't know what facilities Tony has so I don't know if that is a factor as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted October 28, 2005 Author Share Posted October 28, 2005 To be honest the whole point of posting this was that you could do it yourselves! It's not a difficult job, and if you follow the steps as I've written them down it would be pretty hard to go wrong to be honest! Just get the correct tools for the job and then take your time and be methodical. Oh as for my facilities. I did the whole job with the car on my parents driveway. OK I do have a reasonably decent set of tools, but I didn't really use anything ,other than the special tools I mentioned at the start, that a hundred quid at halfrauds wouldn't get you. From what I remember I used:- 10mm spanner 14mm spanner 17mm ring spanner Mole grips Adjustable spanner 1/4 inch ractchet driver 10mm deep socket (1/4inch drive) 12mm deep socket (1/4 inch drive) 1/2 inch ratchet driver 22mm socket (1/2 inch drive) 16mm spark plug socket (1/4 inch drive) 6 inch extension (1/4 inch drive) 2 inch extension (1/4 inch drive) Stanley knife blade (to clean the old sealant off the head) Torque wrench (1/4 inch drive - 20Nm to 100Nm IIRC) Axle stands 2 tonne trolley jack Medium sized plastric mallet 9 inch long screwdriver Scribe for getting the rubber remains from the valve stems Medium sized pliers. Can't think of much of anything else, but generally just things that the average home mechanic has. Nothing special! Best of luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 so does that mean you *didn't* need one of these special tools that I just paid for? and what about the Toyotool? http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=320581&highlight=valve+stem+seal hmmph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 I think you missed this bit Carlos: OK I do have a reasonably decent set of tools, but I didn't really use anything ,other than the special tools I mentioned at the start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 I think you missed this bit Carlos: ah, yes. thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 But it's not mentioned in the list upfront, is it? (at least I can't see it, lol...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted October 29, 2005 Author Share Posted October 29, 2005 From the look of it Carlos that replaces this tool:- Pliers valve stem seal YA8230 £41.45+VAT:- that I bought from Snap-on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Before you start the parts you need to order are:- Valve stem seal (Inlet) 90913-02088 12 off at £3.53 each Valve stem seal (Exhaust) 90913-02123 12 off at £4.93 each So now you'll be ready to fit the new seal. Make sure you fit the correct one. They are different inlet to exhaust. The inlet ones have a bronze finish to the outside of the seal, whereas the exhaust one has a silver/grey finish. Is this right? I've got twelve of 90913-02088 "Seal, Valve Stem Oil" and twelve 90913-02123 "Seal, Valve Stem Oil" but the colours are the other way around. 02088 is grey and 02123 is bronze. Which are the intake seals and which are the exhaust ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 Yup my mistake, 02088 is the exhaust seal and should be grey 02123 is the inlet seal and should be bronze. Apologies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Is this right? I've got twelve of 90913-02088 "Seal, Valve Stem Oil" and twelve 90913-02123 "Seal, Valve Stem Oil" but the colours are the other way around. 02088 is grey and 02123 is bronze. Which are the intake seals and which are the exhaust ones? Can you not check on the EPC Jake? If no one replies I'll have a look when I get home if you can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Yup my mistake, 02088 is the exhaust seal and should be grey 02123 is the inlet seal and should be bronze. Thanks Tony. Can you not check on the EPC Jake? If no one replies I'll have a look when I get home if you can't. Sorted now Ben - cheers anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Jake, are the holes in the stem seals slightly different sizes? Only I got mine from ebay and can't tell which is which until I open up the head! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 Huh? They should be different colours mate. A bronzey type colour and silver. The EPC lists just 1 part number for both inlet and exhaust, but it's a different number to the above. (90913-02090) with a qty of 24, so I guess if you get those then they'll fit either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 The EPC shows 02088 as the exhaust side, but then throws 02123 out and says it does not exist. HHHhhmmmmm let me check the exploded diagrams.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Seems the EPC sees the intake as 90913-02090 and is for production vehicles after 01-01-95, maybe it has changed again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 You EPC is probably a lot newer than mine Ben! Put it this way, I got mine back in '98, and I doubt it was the most current one then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeT Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Jake, are the holes in the stem seals slightly different sizes? Only I got mine from ebay and can't tell which is which until I open up the head! there was a thread on supraforums about the ebay seals. apparently they are all the same size but someone did use them with success. i'd only buy these from mr T to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Just working on this at the mo, bought some Ferrea valve seals from Dusty. Just taken out the spark plug on no. 6 (think that's the right number - one at the far end anyway! ) and it' sliterally dripping with oil Also noticed all th eends of the plugs are white - is that okay? And why hasn't this been made a sticky / faq thingy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 The oil is there probable because your rocket cover seals are worn out, when you replace them with new ones it should be OK! I had the same problem. Dont know about the white plugs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I'd just like to add a bit of advice for anyone attempting this: DON'T buy a cheap tool such as THIS. It will only screw things up and end up bending, having spent 3 hours trying desperately to replace the first set of keepers, only to see one of them ping away into the front garden never to be seen again (resulting in 48 hours of sulking). DO buy the proper tool from HERE ( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted March 28, 2006 Author Share Posted March 28, 2006 lol Ben. Have you finished the job now? If so how did it all go? I take it you took the head off anyways seeing as you were fitting new valves? Did you machine off all the knurling on that tool as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amigo5 Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 one question on this nice article how i will reconize when start the engine on the smoke from the back is from the steam valve or i have a blown turbo since i drive on the TTC mod and i think there is no problem with turbos ? ? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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