jongilly Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Hi all. Looking for info how to reset the main odometer on my supra. Any info out there? Cheers Gilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 (edited) To start afresh you should be able to just replace the EEPROM chip (usually a 8 prong chip) with a new one. You can reprogram the chip and there are lots of howto guides online using laptop and freeware software. There must be some car traders around who would help you out with that. Edited August 15, 2021 by rider (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 21 hours ago, jongilly said: Hi all. Looking for info how to reset the main odometer on my supra. Any info out there? Cheers Gilly My question is, why would you want to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jongilly Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 Its for my black uk spec... Fully restored.. Engine rebuilt.. Never going to sell.. Well not untill im dead.. And would like to reset the clock.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, jongilly said: Its for my black uk spec... Fully restored.. Engine rebuilt.. Never going to sell.. Well not untill im dead.. And would like to reset the clock.. The mileage relates to the chassis and not the engine, I understand that you don't intend to sell but it will have a significant impact on resale value if you do. For changing the mileage, there are plenty of 'Mileage correction' companies out there that will do this for you. I can imagine there aren't many how to guides knocking about given the main reason people do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 If you do I would extensively document it otherwise you will not be able to confirm the mileage upon resale if you ever do. Whilst it's not illegal to alter the mileage it is an offence not to inform any buyer of the mileage discrepancies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jongilly Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 Im really not bothered about resale value.. I understand what you mean thou.. But pretty much every part of the car has been rebuilt.. Refurbished or replaced.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 You cant do it. Refurbished or not it relates to how many miles the car has travelled in its life since new. You cant have 20 years worth of mots recording the miles and then of a sudden it re starts from 0 just becuse it had a refresh, its the same shell/ chassis. Legally it would be classed as clocking or tampering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 hours ago, evinX said: You cant do it. Refurbished or not it relates to how many miles the car has travelled in its life since new. You cant have 20 years worth of mots recording the miles and then of a sudden it re starts from 0 just becuse it had a refresh, its the same shell/ chassis. Legally it would be classed as clocking or tampering. Amazingly it actually is not against the law and is legally allowed, hence the plethora of mileage correction companies. The law is that you must disclose any known mileage discrepancies to buyers and not mislead a buyer written or orally by stating or displaying an incorrect mileage i.e. in the advert or advert pictures Clocking and tampering is the act of altering the mileage to deliberately mislead a buyer about the true mileage. There's a good write up here about it oddly by Bromley council! https://www.bromley.gov.uk/leaflet/122658/4/675/d#tsi1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Few more articles on the subject https://www.independent.co.uk/news/car-clocking-increase-odometer-motoring-a8850941.html https://www.hpi.co.uk/content/buying-selling/car-clocking-dont-get-caught-out/ https://www.admiral.com/magazine/news/crackdown-on-car-clockers-in-the-uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 I clocked one of my fathers cars with the wheels rather than display that I had 'borrowed' when he went on holiday for a month. He came back to a car with slightly fewer miles then when he left but he never noticed. Maybe I should seek out some penance for this misdemeanour as I never did tell him? Mileage adjustments and how easy it is to perform them is why I always regard any mileage on any old car as just a random set of numbers that may or may not reflect in the cars overall condition and it is something that can only be corroborated by an unbroken paper trail. A total rebuild throws that condition correlation straight out anyway, so why not reset to zero? It is actually something that is quite common to do with classic cars that have had major work done on them, one of my old cars was reset to zero by a previous owner after they did a very expensive (relative to the value of the vehicle) bare metal respray and a new engine was added. Its never bothered me as I wouldn't have a clue how many times it has been around the clock in over 50 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 30 minutes ago, rider said: I clocked one of my fathers cars with the wheels rather than display that I had 'borrowed' when he went on holiday for a month. He came back to a car with slightly fewer miles then when he left but he never noticed. Maybe I should seek out some penance for this misdemeanour as I never did tell him? Mileage adjustments and how easy it is to perform them is why I always regard any mileage on any old car as just a random set of numbers that may or may not reflect in the cars overall condition and it is something that can only be corroborated by an unbroken paper trail. A total rebuild throws that condition correlation straight out anyway, so why not reset to zero? It is actually something that is quite common to do with classic cars that have had major work done on them, one of my old cars was reset to zero by a previous owner after they did a very expensive (relative to the value of the vehicle) bare metal respray and a new engine was added. Its never bothered me as I wouldn't have a clue how many times it has been around the clock in over 50 years. I guess the concern is not all parts are usually brand new. Thus hiding wear. But like you say. Restored classics not an issue if its all brand spankers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 15 hours ago, rider said: I clocked one of my fathers cars with the wheels rather than display that I had 'borrowed' when he went on holiday for a month. He came back to a car with slightly fewer miles then when he left but he never noticed. Maybe I should seek out some penance for this misdemeanour as I never did tell him? Mileage adjustments and how easy it is to perform them is why I always regard any mileage on any old car as just a random set of numbers that may or may not reflect in the cars overall condition and it is something that can only be corroborated by an unbroken paper trail. A total rebuild throws that condition correlation straight out anyway, so why not reset to zero? It is actually something that is quite common to do with classic cars that have had major work done on them, one of my old cars was reset to zero by a previous owner after they did a very expensive (relative to the value of the vehicle) bare metal respray and a new engine was added. Its never bothered me as I wouldn't have a clue how many times it has been around the clock in over 50 years. 14 hours ago, Noz said: I guess the concern is not all parts are usually brand new. Thus hiding wear. But like you say. Restored classics not an issue if its all brand spankers Actually it's more of an issue with classics as lower mileage is directly related to an increased price. Low mileage is a particular sticking point for many collectors and they'll pay a significant premium to get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Interesting. Makes sense though. Guess my mind doesn't work like that. Which is a good thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 I think the only time this is OK is if your odometer breaks and you replace it for a new one and correct it to the original mileage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 If your car is an import, there’s a chance it’s been clocked already in Japan. A lot of them seemed to be freshly imported with a believable 60k on them back in the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Its kind of pointless if you ask me, anyone can MOT history check it/HPI it and see what the true mileage is. If you do need to sell it in the future it could look dodgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Style said: If your car is an import, there’s a chance it’s been clocked already in Japan. A lot of them seemed to be freshly imported with a believable 60k on them back in the day I do think that my car is probably unique being the only one to actually get itself driven in Japan coming over in 1998 at under 2 years old with 27,780km on the clock that was then changed to a zero miles display. i do have the original km display, so if anyone wants to refresh their car make me an offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 On 8/21/2021 at 10:17 AM, rider said: I do think that my car is probably unique being the only one to actually get itself driven in Japan coming over in 1998 at under 2 years old with 27,780km on the clock that was then changed to a zero miles display. i do have the original km display, so if anyone wants to refresh their car make me an offer. There’s a few builds on here that have had their pre-facelift odometers reset to 0 so I reckon people will just take that approach if they really want to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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