UK/Euro Spec vs USDM (cosmetic)

[SUPRA4EVA]

Which stock look do you prefer?

Edited April 20, 2021 by SUPRA4EVA (see edit history)

[evinX]

If i had a UK spec i would be keeping it oem toyota stock. Period.

[mc92]

The bonnet scoop and active spoiler are the two best looking optional extras IMO, which both came on the UK. I prefer the bumper mounted side repeaters though.

Be great if we could legally remove our stupid tacked-on front numberplates as well.

Edited April 20, 2021 by mc92 (see edit history)

[Swampy442]

Bottom line is its your car, whatever makes you happy is what goes.

The market is hot for standard cars so a stock UK spec, headlight washers and all is very much in demand.

Personally Ive always preferred stock body 

[Swampy442]

10 minutes ago, mc92 said:

 

Be great if we could legally remove our stupid tacked-on front numberplates as well.

Why? 

[mc92]

11 minutes ago, Swampy442 said:

Why? 

Because I don't like how they look on the front of the car and the yanks get to remove theirs. Subjective opinion, like the OP asked for. 

[SUPRA4EVA]

19 minutes ago, mc92 said:

Be great if we could legally remove our stupid tacked-on front numberplates as well.

Totally agree, they looks so much better without them. All we can do is get a smaller one.

[Bender]

10 hours ago, Simon_RD said:

The UK spec is my favourite, but I just can't stand those headlight washers. Also, don't the USDM's need front plates fitted for most U.S states?

Out of interest, If you have a UK spec, does it still have to have the headlight washers to pass MOT these days? I've seen a few UK specs, but they always seem to be missing the things.

Exactly those washer looks ridiculous cant stand them either

[SUPRA4EVA]

Simon_RD said:

The UK spec is my favourite, but I just can't stand those headlight washers. Also, don't the USDM's need front plates fitted for most U.S states?

Out of interest, If you have a UK spec, does it still have to have the headlight washers to pass MOT these days? I've seen a few UK specs, but they always seem to be missing the things.

Can't stand them on my own car, they serve no purpose! The dude from carwow mentioned something about them being a legal requirement...don't know what the guy was smoking that day lol

Yeah there's around 20 states that don't require a front license plate...I'm actually jealous.

[Swampy442]

If your car has HID headlights, it is a legal requirement to have headlight washers. Its part of the MOT

[SUPRA4EVA]

8 minutes ago, Swampy442 said:

If your car has HID headlights, it is a legal requirement to have headlight washers. Its part of the MOT

Interesting and if it's a JDM with HIDs there's no requirement?

HIDs never came on stock cars anyway did they?

[SUPRA4EVA]

Doing some digging as I really want to understand the purpose of these lamp washers on UK cars, today...

So DfT says this about HIDs (and others of this type): "once fitted to the vehicle it must have headlamp cleaning"

What's strange is HID is not covered in the "The Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989" and are technically not permitted but because of EU (under ECE Regulation 98) and new cars having HIDs, DfT has to accept these new vehicles and have made an exception for aftermarket HIDs. As long as they meet certain criteria. But they say you can't convert an existing halogen headlamp unit and replace with an approved unit only. Although I have heard of kits...no idea how this works then.

As far as I know MK4's didn't come with HIDs, and Euro spec didn't come with the washers.

So I'm still not sure what legal purpose they serve, or served back in 1993 and especially if they don't work for cleaning anymore.

What about JDM Supra's or any other vehicle with out washers, how can they be allowed to use HIDs if they have no washer?

Mat did mention if it's over a certain brightness they are required...but how often do you even see headlamp washers like this, the ones you see are flush and don't obstruct the head light...their purpose is to clean the lens.