Scooter Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just about to drop below £40,000 Pandemic and even the success of the Yaris probably not helping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Reviews Posted March 11, 2021 Author Share Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, raddys said: I've seen a few now, ntb from a side view but from the rear they look to skinny and tall, needed to be wider and lower like the ft1 That’s because Toyota had to shrink the FT1’s remarkable proportions to fit the Z4 chassis they were ordered to use by their bosses at BMW. Have a watch of my review of the J29 Supra on YouTube. Although the one I drove was modified, it left me feeling uninspired. In this day and age, it’s stock performance is mediocre at best and it’s handling dreadful. The back end seems to have a mind of its own, and not in a good way; tugging from left to right as one accelerates with even a little intent. It not only looks awful and disproportionate, but feels worse than its German sibling to drive, and that’s saying something considering the Z4 was never really a “driver’s car”. Edited March 11, 2021 by Mo Reviews (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Reviews Posted March 11, 2021 Author Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Scooter said: Just about to drop below £40,000 Pandemic and even the success of the Yaris probably not helping. The pandemic should be effecting all cars in this category equally; however, this does not appear to be the case. Reality is, most people would rather buy a BMW M2C or the F8X BMW M3/4, which are currently in the Supra’s price bracket (or below it in the case of the M3/4), they all come with a real “M” engine which is fully forged from factory and are incredibly engaging to drive by comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raddys Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 34 minutes ago, Mo Reviews said: That’s because Toyota had to shrink the FT1’s remarkable proportions to fit the Z4 chassis they were ordered to use by their bosses at BMW. Have a watch of my review of the J29 Supra on YouTube. Although the one I drove was modified, it left me feeling uninspired. In this day and age, it’s stock performance is mediocre at best and it’s handling dreadful. The back end seems to have a mind of its own, and not in a good way; tugging from left to right as one accelerates with even a little intent. It not only looks awful and disproportionate, but feels worse than its German sibling to drive, and that’s saying something considering the Z4 was never really a “driver’s car”. I've heard they handle quite well but either way I'm not a fan, especially after toyota said they didn't have the time or funds to build a supra. They built a new yaris from scratch with fancy diffs etc, one of the least desirable cars in the range, but the flagship the cop out on completely, pathetic really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 It perhaps should impact all equally but like you are saying, I think more people were always going to go to the more established/fashionable brands but the pandemic perhaps means there is even more focus on that and the previous people that might have been "I'll give one of those a go for a change" just haven't felt brave enough to move from the better/safer choices. Whatever the effects it's by all metrics (what you see for sale and what you do/don't see on the road) been a tough sell for Toyota (here at least). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Reviews Posted March 11, 2021 Author Share Posted March 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, raddys said: I've heard they handle quite well but either way I'm not a fan, especially after toyota said they didn't have the time or funds to build a supra. They built a new yaris from scratch with fancy diffs etc, one of the least desirable cars in the range, but the flagship the cop out on completely, pathetic really The words “scatty” and “all-over-the-place” come to mind when describing the J29 Supra’s handling to be honest. Not a fan at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Reviews Posted March 11, 2021 Author Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Scooter said: It perhaps should impact all equally but like you are saying, I think more people were always going to go to the more established/fashionable brands but the pandemic perhaps means there is even more focus on that and the previous people that might have been "I'll give one of those a go for a change" just haven't felt brave enough to move from the better/safer choices. Whatever the effects it's by all metrics (what you see for sale and what you do/don't see on the road) been a tough sell for Toyota (here at least). I just love seeing people like Steph Papadikis try so hard to make people like them... in fairness, it is working to a certain extent in the States where the hatred seems to have withered a little. But, there is obviously an underlying commercial motive behind these actions which is noteworthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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