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Hey Noz, I usually have my Detailer give the car a good days session at the start of the season, around April and if I’ve got any shows to attend then I usually get him to get the car prepped beforehand.

 

I also make sure that I get a winter protection detail before I tuck her away for the winter.

 

I’ll post a few pics for you to see the difference it makes to my paint :thumbs:

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I've used one once in 42 years.

 

Wow you old bro :D

 

Hey Noz, I usually have my Detailer give the car a good days session at the start of the season, around April and if I’ve got any shows to attend then I usually get him to get the car prepped beforehand.

 

I also make sure that I get a winter protection detail before I tuck her away for the winter.

 

I’ll post a few pics for you to see the difference it makes to my paint :thumbs:

 

Ah cool. So you see it as a pre show top up. You never thought of doing the prep yourself?

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Would love to have mine properly machine polished. Just to see how good they come out

 

With the right kit. Its amazing the difference.

 

 

 

 

Peter... I can see you spying on this thread lol did expect you to add some value here :D ... waiting!!

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depends on what the car needs if its a full machine job then id only trust a pro to do it ,as like me I have a huge arsenal of products that I can fall back on to get the bes results as cars differ so much these days ,my go to products sometimes don't give me what im looking for , so try option b c d ,but if its just a general detail theres no reason why you cant do that yourself ,as long as you have the basic kit . normally during a detail ill make sure the customer has the info and products to maintain themselves after ive gone .some don't want the hastle or has no interest in doing it so I come back later or when required.

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I can easily spend a day cleaning the car from a bag stuffed with products. Two bucket shampoo wash, clay bar, wash again, towel dry, polish/wax, tyre treat, interior, engine.. etc. Is that detailing or just an all day clean?

 

I would pay someone to wet sand, orbital polish or fix stones chips. As Noz knows, I have history of making something worse than it was! :D

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Detailing is really just an American term for a proper full valet with machine polish. I do my own and have been since the 90's. I supply professional car cleaning products as my job and its a hobby of mine, i have even made my own waxes for personal use in the past. No one action other than a full respray can improve a cars appearance more than a full detail, it gives me a lot of satisfaction taking a car from looking nice to looking amazing. Ive just recently applied an 8 year ceramic coating to my Supra and also to my brother in laws F Type Jag. Waxes are satisfying to apply but they are out dated technology these day. They soon lose their initial gloss, dirt starts to stick to them once they lose their initial slickness and their performance is generally far inferior than a true ceramic coating.

 

If you do have your car detailed or you do it yourself, the best advice i could give you is understand and perfect your washing technique afterwards otherwise you will of wasted money/time and you'll end up back to where you started in no time.

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one of the reasons I don't normally get involved in the detailing threads anymore ,but if you guys are serious about getting your car done do a bit of research not take up any offers from fellow members ,unless that is they are insured for one ,experienced for another .

Christian had had enough of the BS on here ,and free adding is againsed forum rules the last time I looked

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I've experienced both sides of this.

I'm an avid detailer, I actually have the Supra sponsored by a detailing product company called Juicy Details. I have taken on full 3 stage polishing on cars, including my own Supra. But have also taken mine to a "proper" detailer for work which included a full Self Healing Graphene coating as well recently.

 

It all depends how confident you are to have a go, as with anything a lot of the work is in the preparation of your tools, products to use, and actual decontamination of the car.

 

I wouldn't take my car to anyone who doesn't understand thickness/depth of paint as well as the available technology to gauge it (Micron Testers etc), how hard/soft different manufacturers paint is, especially with pre 90s and many 90s cars which had 2pack paint rather than paint with the lacquer over as with all modern cars. I also wouldnt go to anyone where I haven't seen them doing the work on cars first hand. Anyone can take dramatic before and after photos without having done the work to the level they should have done.

 

Images below show the difference on my paint before, during and after. This took me 2 full days of work to achieve the final outcome, which isn't showed on these images.

 

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The most important part of getting yourself into a situation with polishing/detailing is to research and understand what you're trying to achieve, research the products and equipment needed to do it safely and properly, and to ensure you have plenty of time to complete the task at hand to ensure you're not rushing it.

 

I can suggest any products/equipment to use for those who want to do it themselves. I could help people in person if local to Shropshire with understanding all of the cleaning processes prior and post polishing!

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Mines been to a professional once. Mainly for ceramic coating. It's been on at least 2/3 years now and still beading madly and protecting the car. Albeit doesn't get used much so it's lasted.

 

I probably need to get it done again at some point as i had my bonnet fitted and boot lid repainted (so no coating on there now)

 

Can't beat a swirless car. Sure you can do it yourself but i'd never achieve the quality they did.

 

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I guess if money was no object be nice once a year spend a grand with the detailer polish, wax, sealer, ceramic coat.

I just recently had full spray job i used this new Maguire's ceramic spray, a detailer friend said the overcounter products are getting so good, the water beading is best I ever seen, however I applied it dry and rubbed it in, 2hrs but the results were fantastic.

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I guess if money was no object be nice once a year spend a grand with the detailer polish, wax, sealer, ceramic coat.

I just recently had full spray job i used this new Maguire's ceramic spray, a detailer friend said the overcounter products are getting so good, the water beading is best I ever seen, however I applied it dry and rubbed it in, 2hrs but the results were fantastic.

 

To be honest, these are not really true ceramics. Ceramic has just become the new buzzword of the detailing industry similar to how synthetic is used on almost every engine oil these days despite most just being modified hydrocarbon oils. These spray 'ceramic' products are a precursor to a true ceramic and are just heavily modified silicones. A true ceramic will cure and become hard as glass within hours once exposed to the oxygen in the air. True ceramic coatings must be packaged in a protective atmosphere using inert gas to keep them from turning into silicon dioxide (Quartz) whilst being shipped and stored before use. Its pretty much impossible to put a true ceramic into a spray bottle as not only would it go hard in the bottle before it could be used but the nozzle would clog up after the first use.

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To be honest, these are not really true ceramics. Ceramic has just become the new buzzword of the detailing industry similar to how synthetic is used on almost every engine oil these days despite most just being modified hydrocarbon oils. These spray 'ceramic' products are a precursor to a true ceramic and are just heavily modified silicones. A true ceramic will cure and become hard as glass within hours once exposed to the oxygen in the air. True ceramic coatings must be packaged in a protective atmosphere using inert gas to keep them from turning into silicon dioxide (Quartz) whilst being shipped and stored before use. Its pretty much impossible to put a true ceramic into a spray bottle as not only would it go hard in the bottle before it could be used but the nozzle would clog up after the first use.

I wouldnt have clue mate but you seem to know your stuff, I guess I'm just saying that over counter products have got a lot better, but nothing would beat a grand spent with a detailer.

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