Very very clean near stock red Supra TT auto GZ looking for px for big spec supra

[raddys]

Hi guys

 

Just wondering if any big spec owners out there are considering a px for a very clean 1993 tt auto gz in Renaissance red ?

I need more speed but this cars to original and clean to start modding in my eyes.

 

Little spec.

1993

Tt auto GZ

Renaissance red

All is stock apart from bpu and a boost controller

Still in kmh, sitting on 83k kmh so just over 50k miles

Cruise control

Active aero splitter

Leather seats

Key hole lights

Oem footwell lights

Whifbitz sidemount

Whifbitz decats

Blitz boost controller

Tanabe touring exhaust

Big oem brakes all round

 

that's just a brief list, has a nice folder of work since its import in 2010 and also has a history report from its life in japan

 

I purchased the car 4 years ago on 38k miles

 

Serviced meticulously by me and SRD, has had complete fluid change around 3000 miles ago.

 

The car is clean, and I mean super clean, almost museum clean, this has been my baby for 4 years now and what it needed it has got and ive always cared for it.

It's been in 3 magazines, banzai, jap performance and ohsoretro, it's been on toyota uk main website as car of the month, waxstock as a showcar, a film review against the new mk5 poopra for auto Express and on tv on goblin works garage.. so you now have an idea of how clean it is.

 

The car is in excellent original condition and shape, this is why I cant bring myself to start chopping it up.

And I wont sell it until I have another supra lined up so all I'm really looking at is Px for a big spec/tt6

 

So if you know anyone or have something you might be interested in pxing then please dont hesitate to drop me a message

 

This is a real investment supra but I want more speed now ideally

 

Thanks, Grant

 

[raddys]

[Burna]

Put a single on your current car. Reason I say this is because you know it's a good base car. You could sell or px it against an already singled car, but you are almost certainly jumping into the unknown. The build quality of the new car will be questionable or out of date, so there's already a £5k to £10k bill at least to sort niggles. It may not have a fully forged engine, and will not have the low miles you already have, so you're then looking at getting the engine rebuilt, another £5k to £10k. The biggest problem will be the underside, it will most probably need a at least a full under body restoration to bring it back to the standards of your current car, then you can be looking anywhere between £3k to £15k.

 

If you single your car, you're not going to be "chopping it up", there's nothing that cannot be put back to stock if in the distant future you decide you want to sell it as a stock car again.

 

At the end of the day it's just a car, fit a single, kick its head in, and enjoy it mate

[jim_supra]

Put a single on your current car. Reason I say this is because you know it's a good base car. You could sell or px it against an already singled car, but you are almost certainly jumping into the unknown. The build quality of the new car will be questionable or out of date, so there's already a £5k to £10k bill at least to sort niggles. It may not have a fully forged engine, and will not have the low miles you already have, so you're then looking at getting the engine rebuilt, another £5k to £10k. The biggest problem will be the underside, it will most probably need a at least a full under body restoration to bring it back to the standards of your current car, then you can be looking anywhere between £3k to £15k.

 

If you single your car, you're not going to be "chopping it up", there's nothing that cannot be put back to stock if in the distant future you decide you want to sell it as a stock car again.

 

At the end of the day it's just a car, fit a single, kick its head in, and enjoy it mate

 

Good advice, stick with the car you have and single it, keep all the parts that are removed when going single should you want to put it back to stock at some point in the future.

[Burna]

Good advice, stick with the car you have and single it, keep all the parts that are removed when going single should you want to put it back to stock at some point in the future.

 

Thanks Jim, and that's exactly what I've done, I need more garage space though lol

[raddys]

Thanks for the replys burna and jim

I have thought about this before but wasnt keen on a big single on an auto, reason I say this is because my friend had a big hks twin on an auto and it used to lag alot, so much so that from a standstill I would beat him at bpu 1bar boost to 80mph, after that his car was monstrously fast but it kind of put my off the whole big single on a auto box.

That being said it's the only big turbo auto I've been in and raced against so my perception of what a big single auto is not very varied but just my experience.. anyone care to share their big single auto experiences?

How it drives etc, I'd ideally like 600/650bhp, nothing to big as the lag takes the fun out of small twisty roads?

[rider]

Today, it is a cold fact that good condition stock cars are selling faster and for more money than modified Supras. So, there has to be a good reason to spend lots of money to devalue your own car over doing a swap or trade with probably a bit of cash your way?

[raddys]

This is why I'm reluctant to start modding it, the cost of a decent single is atleast 5-7k plumbed in so if I'd value my car at 22k (high I know) and I add another 7k single ontop I've I've potentially spent 29k and all il end up with is a single auto, ideally I'd spend 30k on an already big spec tt6 or something similar.

Like I say I've just put the post up incase someone has a well specced tt6 with a big spec or even a stock tt6 for sale/swap

It would have to be mega clean if it was stock tt6 though

[Burna]

Thanks for the replys burna and jim

I have thought about this before but wasnt keen on a big single on an auto, reason I say this is because my friend had a big hks twin on an auto and it used to lag alot, so much so that from a standstill I would beat him at bpu 1bar boost to 80mph, after that his car was monstrously fast but it kind of put my off the whole big single on a auto box.

That being said it's the only big turbo auto I've been in and raced against so my perception of what a big single auto is not very varied but just my experience.. anyone care to share their big single auto experiences?

How it drives etc, I'd ideally like 600/650bhp, nothing to big as the lag takes the fun out of small twisty roads?

 

You're talking chalk and cheese comparing big twins to a small fast spooling single. I fitted a borg warner 361, and it will do the figures you are after with minimal lag. The auto vs manual debate will never end, but my auto is a totally different animal as it's flappy paddle. Oh and it's definitely quicker than any BPU car.

 

Personally I really don't like the manuals, and the only future improvement (maybe) that I would make to mine is to fit a ZF8HP 8 speed gearbox.

[raddys]

You're talking chalk and cheese comparing big twins to a small fast spooling single. I fitted a borg warner 361, and it will do the figures you are after with minimal lag. The auto vs manual debate will never end, but my auto is a totally different animal as it's flappy paddle. Oh and it's definitely quicker than any BPU car.

 

Personally I really don't like the manuals, and the only future improvement (maybe) that I would make to mine is to fit a ZF8HP 8 speed gearbox.

 

I see, maybe I need to go in a small single auto, anyone got this sort of set up round the Bedfordshire area? Would love to see how they go?

 

Also what flappy paddle set up have you got? Been looking into that to some time ago, I really wanted the flappy paddle set up with the disco control module but not enough people did so I think only one got made? Wasnt you was it?

[Burna]

Today, it is a cold fact that good condition stock cars are selling faster and for more money than modified Supras. So, there has to be a good reason to spend lots of money to devalue your own car over doing a swap or trade with probably a bit of cash your way?

 

Agreed stock cars sell faster and for more money, but the OP sounds like he isn't going anywhere anytime soon, so the financial sense is to single his current car, keep all the stock parts, and return it to stock and then auction it off in 20 years time.

 

I've yet so see any fellow owner that has bought a single turbo supra and not thrown at least £10-£20k at it bringing it up to the standards it should have been in the first place, unless they have been happy to run it as a dog for a short time before moving the problem on. Judging by the standard of Raddys current Supra, he's going to be wanting to spend big on getting a used single supra up to his current standards. So again the financial sense is to single his current car and enjoy it, nothing is irreversible.

[T2 MSW]

Have to agree with Burna, any single setup you purchase is going to need work. And with the price tag your going to pay for the single and then the costs to get it how you like I personally feel you would be better starting with your know history car and spend the money on that.

 

Thats assuming you are happy with the outbox, which will just need cooling.

[raddys]

some good points made here, either way il wait and see if anyones got something they wish to px

Just a few more photos..

[raddys]

Forgot to mention all the work like entire interior has been out and refurbed, wheels re powder coated. Etc etc not that it was bad to start with I'm just fussy and like my cars perfect

[CBR]

Hey bud,

 

I would build it. Your car looks very well maintained and a good base for a project like this.

 

an ATF stage 3 auto, 3500 stall and PHR street kit 6266/6766 or similar will be a very fun and quick auto. Pretty much what I have in mind for my own car in the future.

With the correct stall speed and turbo combination, you will have minimal lag. Last year a member sent me some incar videos of his build auto with Induction Performace magic 4K stall on a 6466. I was curious about the slip with a 4k stall. I was surprised how effortless it drove in daily conditions with minimal slip. And of course the acceleration is fantastic!

[Burna]

Also what flappy paddle set up have you got? Been looking into that to some time ago, I really wanted the flappy paddle set up with the disco control module but not enough people did so I think only one got made? Wasnt you was it?

 

That's the one I've got, the rotary controlled one I made, and you're right it is the only one I'm afraid. But the good news is the push button controller version is nearly complete! It was meant to be in my car for 'The Run' back in May, but being a key worker I've been flat out with work with no holiday as yet, and also my other work on an evening has been taking priority over the electronic shifter. But I need to finish it off soon and get it installed in my car for 'The Run' to Cologne in September, so it will be imminent mate!

[raddys]

Hey bud,

 

I would build it. Your car looks very well maintained and a good base for a project like this.

 

an ATF stage 3 auto, 3500 stall and PHR street kit 6266/6766 or similar will be a very fun and quick auto. Pretty much what I have in mind for my own car in the future.

With the correct stall speed and turbo combination, you will have minimal lag. Last year a member sent me some incar videos of his build auto with Induction Performace magic 4K stall on a 6466. I was curious about the slip with a 4k stall. I was surprised how effortless it drove in daily conditions with minimal slip. And of course the acceleration is fantastic!

 

Thanks for the insight, this sounds very interesting indeed, like I said before I was always under the impression that big turbos on auto boxes made slower driving a pita.

Il have a little look into that and see how much a kit would be.

Thanks

[raddys]

That's the one I've got, the rotary controlled one I made, and you're right it is the only one I'm afraid. But the good news is the push button controller version is nearly complete! It was meant to be in my car for 'The Run' back in May, but being a key worker I've been flat out with work with no holiday as yet, and also my other work on an evening has been taking priority over the electronic shifter. But I need to finish it off soon and get it installed in my car for 'The Run' to Cologne in September, so it will be imminent mate!

 

Ooo push button, sounds brilliant.. have you got a thread on the push button set up?

Il be very interested with that kind of set up and a small turbo kit with high stall

[Mo Reviews]

Get Lee to fit your high stall TC. He loves them!

[supradanturbo]

I’ve got the induction performance 4000k+ stall converter in my car, with build a340. When you want to drive under boost it has zero lag, and can reach over 4000rpm on the brakes. So great for drag racing. But on the street day to day. The converter slips a lot. Going up hills the car will be screaming. Unless you are willing to make the decision and go 100% drag focused, I would defiantly go for a much lower stall speed converter.

[raddys]

Hi guys

On the subject of high stalls, I spoke to lee, he said he doesnt recommended a high stall for any sort of normal road driving as it ruins the driving experience, drag racing only were his words.

I've had a quote from lee regarding a small single fast spooling set up

And it was pretty reasonable considering the set up he is offering.

I'm now just deliberating if I should put a tasty single on or sell it and get something completely different.

Cheers for the input though everyone, much appreciated

[supradanturbo]

I would agree with lee. Even though I have had histalls in my car for years. A small modern turbo like a precision gen 2 6262. Will make 600-650 hp but spool very well so the stock stall converter would be too laggy of a set up

[supradanturbo]

“Wouldn’t”