Bobbeh Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=317836 I chuckled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Lesser mortals such as I cannot get onto that there forum!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Lesser mortals such as I cannot get onto that there forum!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 In summary they don't approve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Why does everyone have problems with Thor? I'm needing my Emanage Ultimate set up and I intend to go back there. They were worth their weight in gold last time I was there. Ok their rollers may not be exact but the way people talk about em somethings obviously gone a miss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 It's times like this that I remember why I hate forums mainly inhabited by teenage americans. On one hand there's a technical discussion going on.... then within 2 pages you have; "Ghey" x 2 One person "You people suck" And a lot of "dudes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted October 8, 2005 Author Share Posted October 8, 2005 Why does everyone have problems with Thor? I'm needing my Emanage Ultimate set up and I intend to go back there. They were worth their weight in gold last time I was there. Ok their rollers may not be exact but the way people talk about em somethings obviously gone a miss No one has problems with Thor.. they just hate the idea of a Ford engine in a Supra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 I must admit that although I think the idea is fantastic and I am a little green eye I do have a hard time with a Ford part in a supra . Come on Ford of all the V8's it had to be a ford .....grrr i hate ford....could not have used a Toyota V8 no ? or even a Hemi, just not a Fooooooooooooord. OK it's a hela of a lot lighter so it will handle better but a ford ...see the theme. for doing something different though stops the boredom setting in, and lets be honest no one is doing nothing new that hasn't been done in the supra world before over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 I must admit that although I think the idea is fantastic and I am a little green eye I do have a hard time with a Ford part in a supra . Come on Ford of all the V8's it had to be a ford .....grrr i hate ford....could not have used a Toyota V8 no ? or even a Hemi, just not a Fooooooooooooord. OK it's a hela of a lot lighter so it will handle better but a ford ...see the theme. for doing something different though stops the boredom setting in, and lets be honest no one is doing nothing new that hasn't been done in the supra world before over here. Ford V8 is sold, We have a Twin Turbo 4.7 V8 Lexus motor spec'd up for this job. We are going to be offering Lexus V8's for W58's as an upgrade for NA owners (MK3 and MK4). Twin Turbo versions on the Getrag 6 for TT and a full on Thor Spec Billet PowerGlide or TH400 with optional gear vendors gear splitter for overdrive and trans brake for proper launches on MT's etc. We will also be doing Thor Spec 6 linked 9" Ford axle subframe conversion for the serious drag racers. The last 3 come with a carbon fibre prop in the kit as standard (proper F1 spec 3000nm twist shear not US crap). Nod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Ford V8 is sold, We have a Twin Turbo 4.7 V8 Lexus motor spec'd up for this job. We are going to be offering Lexus V8's for W58's as an upgrade for NA owners (MK3 and MK4). Twin Turbo versions on the Getrag 6 for TT and a full on Thor Spec Billet PowerGlide or TH400 with optional gear vendors gear splitter for overdrive and trans brake for proper launches on MT's etc. We will also be doing Thor Spec 6 linked 9" Ford axle subframe conversion for the serious drag racers. The last 3 come with a carbon fibre prop in the kit as standard (proper F1 spec 3000nm twist shear not US crap). Nod. sounds VERY good hows about some of these decent CF propshafts for the normal TT 6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 sounds VERY good hows about some of these decent CF propshafts for the normal TT 6? If there was enough interest we could get a batch made. You really need to be making 900bhp+ and have sticky Mickeys to need this sort of prop. Nod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Ford V8 is sold, We have a Twin Turbo 4.7 V8 Lexus motor spec'd up for this job. We are going to be offering Lexus V8's for W58's as an upgrade for NA owners (MK3 and MK4). Twin Turbo versions on the Getrag 6 for TT and a full on Thor Spec Billet PowerGlide or TH400 with optional gear vendors gear splitter for overdrive and trans brake for proper launches on MT's etc. We will also be doing Thor Spec 6 linked 9" Ford axle subframe conversion for the serious drag racers. The last 3 come with a carbon fibre prop in the kit as standard (proper F1 spec 3000nm twist shear not US crap). Nod. Now that sir is more like it. Look forward to seeing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 If there was enough interest we could get a batch made. You really need to be making 900bhp+ and have sticky Mickeys to need this sort of prop. Nod. would we see a benefit from lower weight of the unit? im not going to ever be using 'sticky mickies' dont fully know what they are tbh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 We are going to be offering Lexus V8's for W58's as an upgrade for NA owners (MK3 and MK4). Maybe I should sell the VVTi and keep the NA!! What (very rough) estimate of £££'s are we talking for the engine, ancillaries and labour? Would it mate to an auto box ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Here's a relevant link http://www.lextreme.com/ ( ??) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Maybe I should sell the VVTi and keep the NA!! What (very rough) estimate of £££'s are we talking for the engine, ancillaries and labour? Would it mate to an auto box ok? Should do, they are auto to start with and I'd imagine they are similar, if not the same, autobox. Having not done one yet it's hard to give a rough estimate on price. The engine in NA form for a 1UZ 4 litre is about £750 you then need a Link XLEM ECU to control it at £650 which will aslo need the loom making ECU side at about £350 to £400).Then there is the labour in actually fitting it and joining the two bits together which is a bit of a question mark in terms of cost. I would say about £3500 -> £4000 ball park with the VAT. Nod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 would we see a benefit from lower weight of the unit? im not going to ever be using 'sticky mickies' dont fully know what they are tbh! I doubt you would see much in the great scheme of things. Obviously £800 -> £1000 is bit of a price to pay for saving 10kgs. I can do you a set of AutoClaved carbon fibre doors, tailgate & bonnet (all double skinned) that save about 100kgs which are better value for money @ £4500 Stick Mickey's are Micky Thompson drag radials, basically a street legal drag tyre. Nod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 when i said lower weight i meant as in less inertia to accelerate. not that the prop shaft moves THAT fast, but im sure you might...possibly....know what im talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted October 10, 2005 Author Share Posted October 10, 2005 Ford V8 is sold, We have a Twin Turbo 4.7 V8 Lexus motor spec'd up for this job. Thats more like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOR Racing Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 when i said lower weight i meant as in less inertia to accelerate. not that the prop shaft moves THAT fast, but im sure you might...possibly....know what im talking about I can't see it making any noticable difference. I'm sure the septics might make up jackonorys like this to flog product but not me. My principle goal for this product is torsional twist and torque handling. That is the only reason I'd sell one to a customer anything else is just pub yadda. Nod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 I would say about £3500 -> £4000 ball park with the VAT. That'd be about what I'd expect. Good stuff for NA owners! From what I've just read you'll only get about 280 bhp in NA form from 1UZ. Is that right as you'd expect more from 4 litre V8? I guess the real fun (and expense) comes with the turbos. Good luck with the conversion, sounds like a more straight forward job than the Ford route anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 We are going to be offering Lexus V8's for W58's as an upgrade for NA owners (MK3 and MK4). Nod. Sir, you have well and truely caught my attention! Now all you need is a demo-car... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 I can't see it making any noticable difference. I'm sure the septics might make up jackonorys like this to flog product but not me. My principle goal for this A propshaft doesn't have the diameter to contribute much to the drivetrain inertia. A CF shaft will be a lot lighter, stiffer and much less prone to whirling than a traditional steel one, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Supra + turbo'd or SCharged V8 with twin bonnet bumps = Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 What surprises me is that the engine only costs £750. I mean, how? A 2JZ shortblock appears to cost around £2000, with similar amounts for the head too. Is it simply economies of scale given that the American market loves v8s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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