Coronavirus Or The Virus From China

[The Raven]

The first person in Britain to die after catching Omicron was an anti-vaxxer pensioner who refused the  jab after becoming convinced it was part of a Government conspiracy to control the population having been brainwashed online, his stepson claimed today.

John said his stepfather had died in hospital on Monday, around a week after being admitted. He said: 'He started to look good but went downhill just like that. He wasn't able to speak, he was scared. I think if you're in hospital, having 80% oxygen fired at you, you would regret it (not having a jab) wouldn't you. I would. He was fit. He ate healthy, he didn't smoke and didn't drink in 30 years'.

Early 70s. 

Of course there is never going to evidence that a vaccine or 3 would have saved him. But at 70 you would think your self preservation would kick in

[Big Supes]

Wow, they're really desperate to push mandated vaccines. 

Still no evidence that Covid actually killed this poor chap in his 70's: mass hysteria. 

Thousands of deaths and injuries from the jab: no one blinks an eyelid. 

[Frank Bullitt]

 

[Annabella]

7 hours ago, Frank Bullitt said:

 

Good listen, hope the study translates well here. 

[Frank Bullitt]

16 hours ago, Annabella said:

Good listen, hope the study translates well here. 

It was and a refreshing change to the fear factory nonsense we are getting bombarded with via the usual sources. It’s nice to see the info on natural vs vaccine immunity coming through too.

Hopefully this will be a better year than last year and people can get back to a normal life sans Covid.

Positive news and a great example.

[Dnk]

 

Edited December 17, 2021 by Dnk (see edit history)

[Annabella]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59707252

 

Here we go, not sure what the modelling is based upon.

[The Raven]

I think It’s already to late for measures to be affective I have no doubt recorded infections will top 100k today. I also think part of them wants to let it go in an attempt to gain herd immunity. 

It’s a big gamble to take but each day they don’t do something makes it more likely they are taking it. 
 

It still crazy how it’s affecting people. My sister in law has it…. Headache. Friends mate. hospitalised. 

 

 

[mc92]

9 hours ago, Annabella said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59707252

 

Here we go, not sure what the modelling is based upon.

Reading tea-leaves if it's as accurate as the other SAGE models.

[Dnk]

 

[The Raven]

Well I watched a lot of the videos of that guy since I’ve been on this thread. 
 

Hopefully he is correct in everything he’s saying. I suspected he was anti Covid it’s just a cold type. However his early videos showed he’s not. 
 

With 100k a day and no restrictions this will be the end of Covid just remains to be seen at what price. 

[Dnk]

 

[Annabella]

2 hours ago, Dnk said:

 

Much rather he was talking in the 'Government' briefings.

[Dnk]

29 minutes ago, Annabella said:

Much rather he was talking in the 'Government' briefings.

Agreed, makes more sense to me. 

 

[formatzero]

On 12/16/2021 at 1:07 PM, The Raven said:

The first person in Britain to die after catching Omicron was an anti-vaxxer pensioner who refused the  jab after becoming convinced it was part of a Government conspiracy to control the population having been brainwashed online, his stepson claimed today.

John said his stepfather had died in hospital on Monday, around a week after being admitted. He said: 'He started to look good but went downhill just like that. He wasn't able to speak, he was scared. I think if you're in hospital, having 80% oxygen fired at you, you would regret it (not having a jab) wouldn't you. I would. He was fit. He ate healthy, he didn't smoke and didn't drink in 30 years'.

Early 70s. 

Of course there is never going to evidence that a vaccine or 3 would have saved him. But at 70 you would think your self preservation would kick in

As a member over 70 i can tell you i would take a vaccine even if they had to stick it up my jacksy.I have found once over 70 you are all to aware of your mortality.

[Dnk]

 

[formatzero]

14 hours ago, Dnk said:

 

Thanks for that ,very interesting and very clearly explained !

[Dnk]

 

[The Raven]

Seems we are not going to do anything. Let it rip and hope for the best.

I wonder how the “it’s all about control” people square that. They had the perfect time to gain said control and passed it up.

 

[mc92]

6 hours ago, The Raven said:

Seems we are not going to do anything. Let it rip and hope for the best.

I wonder how the “it’s all about control” people square that. They had the perfect time to gain said control and passed it up.

 

Good. I think the reasoning is that people won't listen to lockdown restrictions over Chrismas because of the flagrant breaking of last years by Dear Leader and his colleagues.

The soonest they can do it from a political perspective is January, and I wouldn't be surprised if they do, however I think it's already far too late and omicron is far too contagious for a lockdown to make a meaningful difference on case numbers.

[The Raven]

Scotland think differently, so if this is all part of the global plan people are braking ranks..

[Annabella]

5 hours ago, mc92 said:

Good. I think the reasoning is that people won't listen to lockdown restrictions over Chrismas because of the flagrant breaking of last years by Dear Leader and his colleagues.

The soonest they can do it from a political perspective is January, and I wouldn't be surprised if they do, however I think it's already far too late and omicron is far too contagious for a lockdown to make a meaningful difference on case numbers.

As it looks like hospital numbers and deaths are not going up wildly, the major problem will be keeping the infastructure going, with the massive amounts of people having to isolate for 10 days, supermarket workers, lorry drivers, police, ambulance service, fire service etc, that's going to be the main thing, I think they'll have to change the isolation time, which I don't think they will, or some form of lockdown.

[Big Supes]

55 minutes ago, The Raven said:

Scotland think differently, so if this is all part of the global plan people are braking ranks..

Come on mate, I think you're over playing the naive card a bit. Scotland and Ireland already have the commie passport and we're pretty much there ourselves... only a lil bit more to go. 

You state they had an opportunity to take control like you haven't already been rolled over the last two years and had your belly tickled, like a good boy. 

What was it?

"Two weeks two weeks to flatten the curve."

"We will vaccine the vulnerable, there's no need to vaccinate kids."

"Vaccination will be a matter of choice."

"There will never be a vaccine passport." 

The SME sector has been decimated while mega corporations and the rich have never seen profits so good. People sit and watch the news to see what basic liberties big daddy government will allow them like it's normal. People are being forced to have dodgy so-called vaccines that are currently on trial in order to go somewhere, despite them being, not only effin useless, but actually harmful to many (yellow card data), including my parents. Don't even get me started on the jabbing of kids along with psychologically fucking generations of them up with muzzles, social distancing and thinking it's normal to obey the government like we live in somekind of dictatorship. 

Each government's strategy is based on behavioural psychology to implement what comes down the chain from the WHO/UN/NGO's and it's working like a charm. With big tech and the corporate press feeding back public responses/surveys via Facebook reactions and comments they are opting for what they feel works best for England. I suspected from the start that Sweden didn't even have a lockdown as they're already a socialist (compatible with communist) country and did not require the cane. They were already open to bio passports and now they're looking to microchip people with their Covid pass. On the flip side of this you have Australia. No justication for their tyrannical actions in terms of case numbers, hospitalisations and deaths. The government and media were mocked when they tried project fear so they got the iron fist. As for England, I think they knew that approach wouldn't have worked. London would still be on fire now. We got project fear, but more importantly, we were invited into "doing our bit for the country" as that's what us English do. We muck together through hard times. The hero complex panders well to the ego. I think this is partially why those who still have their head in the sand try to mock others who have their eyes open. It's a similar psychology to statements lkme "little Englanders" when talking about Brexit. 

I did everything they asked for the first six months, but I realised I was being made a mug of as too many things didn't make sense. As for 90% of the rest of the country, they went along with it, but that number has been dwindling rapidly as we're at the stage now where I don't think the booster uptake has been all that great. The 4th and 5th jabs are going to be a hard sale. My guess is people will feel they literally have no choice once the Covid passport in place. 

The Scots and the Irish have embraced entities such as the EU and their agendas. Ireland is fully on board while, for the Scots, I believe some of it is out of habit of doing the opposite to what England want. Either way, they're on board and that little Nazi witch is pushing forward at a pace that correlates to the resistance/hesitance of the public. 

I doubt we'll see a lockdown until Jan as that's what was 'leaked' earlier this month. The focus is vaccine passports so the narrative will probably be "Vaccine passports are the only way out of this and to get us back to normal.".

 

[Annabella]

3 hours ago, Annabella said:

As it looks like hospital numbers and deaths are not going up wildly, the major problem will be keeping the infastructure going, with the massive amounts of people having to isolate for 10 days, supermarket workers, lorry drivers, police, ambulance service, fire service etc, that's going to be the main thing, I think they'll have to change the isolation time, which I don't think they will, or some form of lockdown.

 

Erm quote myself ahem, policy is listening to me

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59749447

[Style]

6 hours ago, Annabella said:

 

Erm quote myself ahem, policy is listening to me

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59749447

Give it a year and we'll learn that someone high up the Gov. ranking tested positive on the 16th or 17th and wasn't happy with missing Christmas Day  

 

9 hours ago, Big Supes said:

Come on mate, I think you're over playing the naive card a bit. Scotland and Ireland already have the commie passport and we're pretty much there ourselves... only a lil bit more to go. 

You state they had an opportunity to take control like you haven't already been rolled over the last two years and had your belly tickled, like a good boy. 

What was it?

"Two weeks two weeks to flatten the curve."

"We will vaccine the vulnerable, there's no need to vaccinate kids."

"Vaccination will be a matter of choice."

"There will never be a vaccine passport." 

The SME sector has been decimated while mega corporations and the rich have never seen profits so good. People sit and watch the news to see what basic liberties big daddy government will allow them like it's normal. People are being forced to have dodgy so-called vaccines that are currently on trial in order to go somewhere, despite them being, not only effin useless, but actually harmful to many (yellow card data), including my parents. Don't even get me started on the jabbing of kids along with psychologically fucking generations of them up with muzzles, social distancing and thinking it's normal to obey the government like we live in somekind of dictatorship. 

Each government's strategy is based on behavioural psychology to implement what comes down the chain from the WHO/UN/NGO's and it's working like a charm. With big tech and the corporate press feeding back public responses/surveys via Facebook reactions and comments they are opting for what they feel works best for England. I suspected from the start that Sweden didn't even have a lockdown as they're already a socialist (compatible with communist) country and did not require the cane. They were already open to bio passports and now they're looking to microchip people with their Covid pass. On the flip side of this you have Australia. No justication for their tyrannical actions in terms of case numbers, hospitalisations and deaths. The government and media were mocked when they tried project fear so they got the iron fist. As for England, I think they knew that approach wouldn't have worked. London would still be on fire now. We got project fear, but more importantly, we were invited into "doing our bit for the country" as that's what us English do. We muck together through hard times. The hero complex panders well to the ego. I think this is partially why those who still have their head in the sand try to mock others who have their eyes open. It's a similar psychology to statements lkme "little Englanders" when talking about Brexit. 

I did everything they asked for the first six months, but I realised I was being made a mug of as too many things didn't make sense. As for 90% of the rest of the country, they went along with it, but that number has been dwindling rapidly as we're at the stage now where I don't think the booster uptake has been all that great. The 4th and 5th jabs are going to be a hard sale. My guess is people will feel they literally have no choice once the Covid passport in place. 

The Scots and the Irish have embraced entities such as the EU and their agendas. Ireland is fully on board while, for the Scots, I believe some of it is out of habit of doing the opposite to what England want. Either way, they're on board and that little Nazi witch is pushing forward at a pace that correlates to the resistance/hesitance of the public. 

I doubt we'll see a lockdown until Jan as that's what was 'leaked' earlier this month. The focus is vaccine passports so the narrative will probably be "Vaccine passports are the only way out of this and to get us back to normal.".

 

It's taken 17 pages for Godwin's Law to play out here. I know there are opposing views in this thread but if I'm being told to toe the line then surely it goes both ways?

Sounds like we'll be getting a lockdown immediately after Christmas at this rate. If we do, I'll be interested to see how it plays out as I can see the majority of people telling BoJo to go and politely do one while they crack on with New Year celebrations. Can't see it being policed well, if at all either. Especially given how lax the enforcement of masks in public places has been going lately. The gov. have majorly shot themselves in the foot recently. Or at least that's how it appears from MSM...even the BBC! Can you see any reasoning behind this? Or just an opportunity to try and claw back some fans with a story?