Bender Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Got question about cam pulleys from China. I know they cheap and you cant expect much from there but i need them for standard NA (so nothing over 225BHP[emoji2369]) as i got clear cam cover and next month i will be doing cambelt (blue gates rpm) and it will be look nice with new cam pulleys so just wonder if anybody use them or got some usefull info? Or its better to Save so more for proper one or leave it standard one? Wysłane z mojego VOG-L09 przy użyciu Tapatalka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Nothing wrong with the standard ones really. I'd certainly not being going near cheap Chinese parts for something that could grenade an engine if it failed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 Thats what im worring about but since im not going for a big power there is a "maybe" Wysłane z mojego VOG-L09 przy użyciu Tapatalka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) China uses materials that are not pure. You may consider China to have less durable or strong material. Not in all cases, but in more cases than many industries we use day to day. I've machined aluminium for sudden hard chunks to arise their head randomly peppered throughout a billet block. Most perceptions are that China create 'weak' parts. However the reality is much worst. There is traditionally an inconsistency with the materials they make. The parts are not weak. Which is worst: a chocolate teapot or a metal teapot with a bomb inside - trust me China dont make chocolate teapots. Maybe glass is a better description. The raw materials are typically not an issue when exported directly. Aerospace industry will not even use a China based company or product for their components (maybe tooling or fixtures). When you consider an NA not big power. You quantify China products as weak. But when you take into full consideration you may have a material that could fail at an unknown value due to lack of repeatable processes and globally known material anomalies, the rule of thumb that 'it's only an NA' goes out the window. Consider the product potential you fail at ANY power level. If you're okay with that. Then it's not a problem. I would challenge ANY top performance product against Chinas best capability to product performance parts. NAt kits and turbos are a great example of success. However, statistically you are world apart from reliability. It's a gamble. To summarise. I would always consider China parts inconsistent rather than incapable. Edited February 21, 2020 by Noz (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 I guess i dont take the risk... So got two options left stay factory or go for brand ones but which of those you will reccomend HKS, Tomei, Titan? I know first gen of HKS was eating belts Wysłane z mojego VOG-L09 przy użyciu Tapatalka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Couldn't you paint your stock pulleys ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 You've done more research than me buddy. I think Titan ones have always had a good reputation. Even if the companies had its ups and downs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 Couldn't you paint your stock pulleys ?Was thinking about that too but i guess they will not look as good as new one Wysłane z mojego VOG-L09 przy użyciu Tapatalka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Was thinking about that too but i guess they will not look as good as new one Wysłane z mojego VOG-L09 przy użyciu Tapatalka But a shed load cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 True Wysłane z mojego VOG-L09 przy użyciu Tapatalka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 For what it would cost i'd do one and see how it looks, you might be surprised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 Who know maybe i give it a go or will find some good deal on internet Wysłane z mojego VOG-L09 przy użyciu Tapatalka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk4Gaz Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 You've done more research than me buddy. I think Titan ones have always had a good reputation. Even if the companies had its ups and downs.Titan have a terrible reputation with their cam gears. The amount that have shattered is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk4Gaz Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Thats what im worring about but since im not going for a big power there is a "maybe" Wysłane z mojego VOG-L09 przy użyciu TapatalkaPower has nothing to do with the stress a cam gear will see. Personally I would paint or powder coat the factory ones. Unless you plan on spending top money on a known quantity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-love Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Titan have a terrible reputation with their cam gears. The amount that have shattered is ridiculous. /QUOTE] Agreed. Titan cam gears fail on a regular basis. Either shattering or snapping from the centre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) Those are Brian Crower cam gears that are used by a lot of 2JZs in professional motorsports (Formula Drift etc.) Regards, Herb Edited February 25, 2020 by Herb edit due to change of plans (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 Don‘t want to highjack this thread, however thought it could be of some help for the thread starter potentially. I have a brand new set of quality cam gears sitting here and due to change of plans eventually for sale. Those are Brian Crower cam gears that are used by a lot of 2JZs in professional motorsports (Formula Drift etc.) If you are interested just drop me a PM. Regards, HerbPmd Wysłane z mojego VOG-L09 przy użyciu Tapatalka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 Titan have a terrible reputation with their cam gears. The amount that have shattered is ridiculous. /QUOTE]Thanks good to know Wysłane z mojego VOG-L09 przy użyciu Tapatalka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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