Slayer Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Hi guys, In terms of value, say compare 2 cars with the exact same spec and colour, how much more do you think a uk spec TT 6 speed is worth compare to the auto? Same question for Jpm import, same premium you think? With Toyota resuming production for the supra parts, it will make it easier to find new parts for the 6 speed gear box you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Very approximately auto x 1.5 = Manual? Or perhaps a flat 10k premium, that sort of order it seems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Hi guys, In terms of value, say compare 2 cars with the exact same spec and colour, how much more do you think a uk spec TT 6 speed is worth compare to the auto? Same question for Jpm import, same premium you think? With Toyota resuming production for the supra parts, it will make it easier to find new parts for the 6 speed gear box you think? Pretty much what Scooter said with regards to price. But on the subject of 6spds, Toyota sold all of their tooling equipment off when they finished production of the 6 speed boxes so I highly doubt they will re-introduce anything to do with them I'm afraid. It's a shame really as it's probably the most sought after item with how badly the second hand prices have rocketed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdavies Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Historically the difference between a JDm 6 speed and a JDM auto has been the price of a 6 speed box. In the current market i am guessing that is somewhere between £7k - £10k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneW Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Pretty much what Scooter said with regards to price. But on the subject of 6spds, Toyota sold all of their tooling equipment off when they finished production of the 6 speed boxes so I highly doubt they will re-introduce anything to do with them I'm afraid. It's a shame really as it's probably the most sought after item with how badly the second hand prices have rocketed. The main question is : WHO BOUGHT THE TOOLING EQUIPMENTS ??? I personnal think the GETRAG 6 speeds isn't the best choice nowadays, the TREMEC looks (to my taste) like to be the best buy if I had to choice between these 2 gearboxes… The purist wouldn't agree, but prices won't be less for a Tremec Supra than for a Getrag Supra, maybe even the opposite ? Can't wait for Mike's (SRD) feedback to his Tremec swap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 The main question is : WHO BOUGHT THE TOOLING EQUIPMENTS ??? I personnal think the GETRAG 6 speeds isn't the best choice nowadays, the TREMEC looks (to my taste) like to be the best buy if I had to choice between these 2 gearboxes… The purist wouldn't agree, but prices won't be less for a Tremec Supra than for a Getrag Supra, maybe even the opposite ? Can't wait for Mike's (SRD) feedback to his Tremec swap. Some on here did the groundwork on here a few years ago and IIRC it all ended up somewhere in Europe, possibly Germany if memory serves me, where it was de-commisioned and either repurposed or broken for parts. At least we have a few options out there now with DSG options even becoming a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 The tremec is so heavily supported. It would just make sense to go down that road. Due to the continuous support of the T56 I believe it will soon add the same value a v160 would. People will just call it another variant of the bullet proof 6speed TT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 The tremec is so heavily supported. It would just make sense to go down that road. Due to the continuous support of the T56 I believe it will soon add the same value a v160 would. People will just call it another variant of the bullet proof 6speed TT. It's getting to the point of what choice will you have if it breaks isn't it? Could help support Auto values.......depending on how purist the future owners end up. I really don't think we'll see significant purist owners (the normal beards so you associate with classic cars) in the future regarding Supra's? The standard ones may always have a niche and perhaps/probably top money but I don't see the non standard ones suffering horrendously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 It's getting to the point of what choice will you have if it breaks isn't it? Could help support Auto values.......depending on how purist the future owners end up. I really don't think we'll see significant purist owners (the normal beards so you associate with classic cars) in the future regarding Supra's? The standard ones may always have a niche and perhaps/probably top money but I don't see the non standard ones suffering horrendously. Yeah mate, i my R154 died i'm screwed. And wouldnt replace but upgrade. The market seems to be driven by collectors and that isnt only affecting the totally standard ones. So I think if the purists still have no impact on value. Then the reliability will be the main factor. I would love certain modifications to add real value. This would be one of the top ones for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneW Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) Yeah mate, i my R154 died i'm screwed. And wouldnt replace but upgrade. The market seems to be driven by collectors and that isnt only affecting the totally standard ones. So I think if the purists still have no impact on value. Then the reliability will be the main factor. I would love certain modifications to add real value. This would be one of the top ones for sure. There are 2 types of purist… Stock purist and hardcore purist (single build etc, …)… The 2nd type will definately give more money for a T56 build than for a V160 build... Edited January 30, 2020 by WayneW (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) Your choice is; pay the plus £7k to £10k premium price for a Supra with a 25 years old Getrag box that could go tits-up tomorrow and then IF you could find another box or bespoke components, cost another £7k to £10k to sort out, or for a similar price with reliability, buy an auto and fit a new Tremec. Alternatively, stick with the amazingly cheap auto box and be happy with 500ftlb 600bhp. However, should you think that's not enough power for a 'road car', you could ask your Doctor to prescribe Prozac? Edited January 30, 2020 by David P (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 David. Now the happy and lucky owner of a 600hp car. I can now say that I no longer wish for more power but more speed. Traction is an issue. Want lower down power. It's all in the collectors interest for rises andni think it's due to that these cars are shooting up in value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 You're forgetting the biggest factor here, value is irrelevant, it's what people are willing to pay. You see some ridiculous prices thrown about but how many actually sell? And how much under the asking price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 There was a mini gold rush recently as the prices shot up but it seems to have settled down a bit now, loads of Supra's sitting at high for sale prices, some astronomical used parts prices on ebay, but as you say they aren't selling....one of the lower priced cars on ebay is a single turbo auto that looks reasonably clean, that's down to the £15k's now. That's £10K less than a recently advised on here valuation on a stock auto (admittedly facelift and lower miles etc). As before the price hikes of the last few years I don't think there are that many active buyers for Supra's, some will have been priced out now and perhaps a similar number of more affluent people have been attracted in now they are valuable and getting recognised as a potential classic? but it's always very very low numbers in the big scheme of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabella Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 It's getting to the point of what choice will you have if it breaks isn't it? Could help support Auto values.......depending on how purist the future owners end up. I really don't think we'll see significant purist owners (the normal beards so you associate with classic cars) in the future regarding Supra's? The standard ones may always have a niche and perhaps/probably top money but I don't see the non standard ones suffering horrendously. Rider? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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