evinX Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 RIP to the driver, its been floating around this week and i have to say looking at that sill i strongly believe thats been cut and shut https://tiremeetsroad.com/2019/12/03/russia-mkiv-supra-crashes-into-pole-splits-in-half-leaves-driver-dead/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Does look very suspicious for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Wow, I haven't seen a cut and shut accident for years. Bet his last moments were frightening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Reviews Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Really sad especially considering the great lengths governments are going to make motorists' lives harder... RIP - truly horrible scenes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Jesus how bad is this comment around legislation in Russia!!! "While it might be illegal to import a whole car from Japan, somehow it’s still legal to cut a car in half, import each half as car parts, and weld them back together wherever they end up, in this case, Russia" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I guess its how they make cars like that more affordable, why anyone would own a cut n shut let alone a performance car cut n shut is beyond me, RIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 If done properly (chopping and joining at the manufacturers original seems), isn't a cut and shut supposed to be relatively safe? Stretch limos and cruise ships being two examples where this is carried out on a regular basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) Jesus how bad is this comment around legislation in Russia!!! "While it might be illegal to import a whole car from Japan, somehow it’s still legal to cut a car in half, import each half as car parts, and weld them back together wherever they end up, in this case, Russia" /QUOTE] Pretty terrible. But if they are happy to use a prohibited chemical weapon (Novichok) on foreign soil, exposing innocent members of public to the deadly toxin, I highly doubt they are too worried about this. Edited December 4, 2019 by Frank Bullitt (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 If done properly (chopping and joining at the manufacturers original seems), isn't a cut and shut supposed to be relatively safe? Stretch limos and cruise ships being two examples where this is carried out on a regular basis. I dont think you can replace the strength of one single piece by welding two together.... and typically when it is done by a chop shop its done on the cheap and without a thought of the consequences. Those other cars/uses are not meant for high speed, mainly cruising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I dont think you can replace the strength of one single piece by welding two together.... and typically when it is done by a chop shop its done on the cheap and without a thought of the consequences. Those other cars/uses are not meant for high speed, mainly cruising. That is the point I am trying to make. If done properly. Welding two pieces of a car together in your mates back yard with no in-depth knowledge or thought into the rebuilding process isn't what I was referring to. If all the joints are panel to panel, using the same kind of repair that manufacturers would use, done by a professional bodyshop using a jig then what would be the problem? If a damaged car can be rebuilt from the B pillar backwards what is wrong with using what is essentially a repair section welded to manufacturers standards? This is a genuine thought and I'm not trying to condone the cut and shut method mentioned in the first paragraph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Sure, looking at the pic its not a question I would even care about asking as I'd never want to own anything cut n shut One original piece would bend, as you see those wrapped around tree, clearly the welds are weaker points compared to a single forged piece of chassis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squiffy Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Yeah it surely had to be a chop job looking at the perfect break on the sill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 The way they’ve done it there is awful but I could see how it could be done safely. I.e. new box section metal the length of the car or a whole new frame/chassis/welded cage. This is just a case of welding the seams which seems insane to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Crazy stuff and RIP to the driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 Heres another russian special, what makes me laugh is they cut the pillar where the roof skin is supposed to be joined, not the inner structure. And the tub/ floor pan is a death certificate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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