Suprakeith Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Am replacing my heater matrix and was considering replacing the two metal pipes aswell but can’t seem to find part number and if Toyota still sell them, so was wondering if anyone on here would be able to help please? Picture of the pipes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdale Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Larger pipe - PIPE, HEATER WATER INLET 87248-14230 Smaller pipe - PIPE, HEATER WATER OUTLET 87248-14240 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprakeith Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 Larger pipe - PIPE, HEATER WATER INLET 87248-14230 Smaller pipe - PIPE, HEATER WATER OUTLET 87248-14240 Thank you so much for that, really am greatfull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 they are discontinued last time i checked the core to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprakeith Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 they are discontinued last time i checked the core to I know the core discontinued and didn’t know about the pipes, will give them ring tomorrow just to double check just to make sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 To be fair id expect a decent fabricator to be able to make up a set. Or if the ends are corroded like ive seen, you can cut it back with a dremel, flare the end and use some 16mm ID hose to extend into the engine bay. Then either use a long length directly to the block or use 2 hose joiners for a somewhat oem fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprakeith Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 To be fair id expect a decent fabricator to be able to make up a set. Or if the ends are corroded like ive seen, you can cut it back with a dremel, flare the end and use some 16mm ID hose to extend into the engine bay. Then either use a long length directly to the block or use 2 hose joiners for a somewhat oem fit. True could get set made I bet, mine aren’t in bad condition so if can’t get new was thinking of just cleaning them and having braided hose connecting them to enjoy block lines...did originally want to try look at different fittings for matrix and running hose directly from matrix to water lines in bay with no joins at all but think that’s out of question really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 True could get set made I bet, mine aren’t in bad condition so if can’t get new was thinking of just cleaning them and having braided hose connecting them to enjoy block lines...did originally want to try look at different fittings for matrix and running hose directly from matrix to water lines in bay with no joins at all but think that’s out of question really Yea you want it to be serviceable really. Would be nice to find a similar toyota core to retrofit into the supra. Cant see it being too hard. Or ideally...an electric heater core...someone must be able to do it...instant heat in the winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprakeith Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 Yea you want it to be serviceable really. Would be nice to find a similar toyota core to retrofit into the supra. Cant see it being too hard. Or ideally...an electric heater core...someone must be able to do it...instant heat in the winter Instant heat in the winter would be very nice for sure[emoji4]. I rang Toyota today and the heater pipes are still available so have ordered new set, at least with them and new core, should have a perfect working heating set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Instant heat in the winter would be very nice for sure[emoji4]. I rang Toyota today and the heater pipes are still available so have ordered new set, at least with them and new core, should have a perfect working heating set up. You sure it wasnt the rubber hoses they ordered in? Those metal pipes have been discontinued for a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprakeith Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 You sure it wasnt the rubber hoses they ordered in? Those metal pipes have been discontinued for a while I hope not as he said the called them heater matrix pipes not hose but will find out on the 12th November when they turn up. Will have mine all cleaned just incase lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Haha im almost tempted to ring my toyota and find out lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 AFAIK they have been discontinued for a while and making new ones is far from trivial due to needing an accurate inverse flare where they O ring on to the cores. Not to mention tight bends over very short distances. I'll post a photo of the last heater matrix I changed after hack sawing off an end tank. Talk about clogged up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprakeith Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 Haha im almost tempted to ring my toyota and find out lol AFAIK they have been discontinued for a while and making new ones is far from trivial due to needing an accurate inverse flare where they O ring on to the cores. Not to mention tight bends over very short distances. I'll post a photo of the last heater matrix I changed after hack sawing off an end tank. Talk about clogged up... Well guys went to my local Toyota today and collected my new heater matrix hard pipes, took 3 weeks to turn up..well pleased to have new matrix pipes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wile e coyote Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Fantastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Have to give my local Toyota people a telling off, unless these are things Toyota have started to re manufacture. Good news though, they are something that would be hard to recreate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Have to give my local Toyota people a telling off, unless these are things Toyota have started to re manufacture. Good news though, they are something that would be hard to recreate. Did you get round to having any heater Matrices fabbed up Chris? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Yes, but they are expensive I'm afraid. Very expensive... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Yes, but they are expensive I'm afraid. Very expensive... What is expensive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 I have a sample one here at £350 plus VAT, next ones are £500 or more, they are tricky to make due to the size of the end tanks, being double flow, and needing bespoke pipe connectors.Plus the cores are very efficient and again, bespoke. But if you like heat and live in Scandinavia.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 I have a sample one here at £350 plus VAT, next ones are £500 or more, they are tricky to make due to the size of the end tanks, being double flow, and needing bespoke pipe connectors.Plus the cores are very efficient and again, bespoke. But if you like heat and live in Scandinavia.... Yay Chris - - - Updated - - - Well guys went to my local Toyota today and collected my new heater matrix hard pipes, took 3 weeks to turn up..well pleased to have new matrix pipes https://jza80.mkivsupra.net/imports/2019/11/74.jpghttps://jza80.mkivsupra.net/imports/2019/11/75.jpg Looks like they were produced in Jan. Check the dates...time to call toyota and check on what else is back in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I have a sample one here at £350 plus VAT, next ones are £500 or more, they are tricky to make due to the size of the end tanks, being double flow, and needing bespoke pipe connectors.Plus the cores are very efficient and again, bespoke. But if you like heat and live in Scandinavia.... In all honesty I would much rather pay a little bit extra for a known quality than buy those cheap rebranded Chinese knock off parts that other traders are known to sell for an inflated price. I have no doubt this will be the same quality as your intercoolers so the price seems acceptable for a bespoke made product. Higher quality than OEM too I would imagine. Maintaining these cars is never cheap, well to do properly isn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Well, it's a LOT of work to change them, especially if the car has a lot of aftermarket wiring behind the dash that is not documented... (you know who you are, lol). So it makes sense to use a decent matrix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Well, it's a LOT of work to change them, especially if the car has a lot of aftermarket wiring behind the dash that is not documented... (you know who you are, lol). So it makes sense to use a decent matrix. I recently bought and fitted a heater matrix for one of my cars, $12 matrix which equated to £18 delivered taxes paid. Different World but at least in the old cars the heaters were a stuck on afterthought (often an optional extra) rather than a buried integration which makes swapping out a lot easier, still not easy but easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Jag XJS has to the easiest matrix to change. Glove box liner out (six screws) disconnect hoses, remove heater box end cap (two screws) pull old matrix out, push new one in, replace cap, replace hoses, refit liner, refill and bleed coolant 30 minutes tops... Some Mercedes have two matrices, buried totally behind the dash, one each side, depending on model they make the MKIV Supra look like a walk in the park... madness, these things should be easy to change, like a main coolant.radiator. Renault V6 GTA's are terrible, too. Must post photo of the old matrix from a MKIV I did quite recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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