mellonman Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just dawned on me that I think I would have preferred it if they would have started just remaking the MKIV with modern tech IE bb Sequential turbos, new ecu, new traction control, better weight distribution, touch screen. probably everything that's in the MKV just in the MKIV instead of making the MKV. I expect a lot of retro cars reproduced would sell like hot cakes with all the mod cons, remember as a kid that car you loved but couldnt afford now 15-20 years latter you have the money but the cars are rust buckets. whats everyones thoughts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I'd like to see a Mk4 with Lexus LC500h hybrid power. But I'd prefer it with the V8, which sort of defeats the object as I'd be just as happy with the 2JZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolizma Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 There is lots of new legislation/safety requirements old cars don't meet unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 There is lots of new legislation/safety requirements old cars don't meet unfortunately. Would it be hard to get the MKIV through the REGS with all the mod cons ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_bandido Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Yes. The whole car would end up being different because of the crash safety regs, the 2j would never get through emissions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 how do caterum 7 do it they surely cant meet the crash test regs and such, surely Toyota could do a kit like the 7 most of us have had our supras in bits and can handle a spanner or have the gazoo brand it or have a company build the kit for you like SRD, whifbitz , plus you could start with your spec list ie big single , TT, N/A. im not just saying the mkiv but every iconic 80's 90's cars , rs escort , rs seira , mk1 mexico , RX7 , GTR's , reault 5 , cleo v6 , z3 m coupe , F40, vw camper mk1, beatle ect,ect what do these companies do with their mods and casting equipment after they have been finished with ? the plan or data sheet must be on record so you could make a new mold and start production im not saying replica im saying a actual reproduction with original parts backed by the original manufacturer. I know its a pipe dream but I seriously think there is a market for it, saying that though 60k for a MKIV when new is pretty steep and that's when it was mass produced say I could do it for 100k I don't think I would sell many I thought it was a good idea to until the maths kicked in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_bandido Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Caterham probably don't meet the volume requirements to be subject to the same rules as a mass manufacturer. It would be different for Toyota, they would have to release the MKIV rehash under a different company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 Caterham probably don't meet the volume requirements to be subject to the same rules as a mass manufacturer. It would be different for Toyota, they would have to release the MKIV rehash under a different company. Gazoo . Mr T if you are watching it's just a thought Ooowh they should the gt2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drift_bear Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Top secret took an R32 GTR and put in the engine, transmission and full interior from an R35 GTR. It’s a work of art but took them ages iirc, was built for the auto salon the other week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolizma Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Its hugely expensive. especially if you want to reproduce the same way they did it originally. Welding robots, production line, hugely expensive tools to make a single part. Imagine that to just design and build one tool (mould) that would run on an injection moulding press to produce lets say an interior plastic piece, it costs millions. This does not include the cost of the press or running the damn thing. Granted the design is already there but it doesn't make any sense financially. Never mind emission regulations, crash safety regulations, pedestrian safety regulations.. the list goes on. My prediction is that in the future, the 3D printing technology will advance so much that people will be able to print brand new cars of the past at home. By that time though the supra will probably be the equivalent of a horse carriage now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 how do caterum 7 Both Caterham and Westfield use EC SSTA (European Small Scale Type Approval) The production limit for both cars and light vans / light trucks is 1000 per type each year in the whole of the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muckyman Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 A Singer Supra would be very interesting...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Top secret took an R32 GTR and put in the engine, transmission and full interior from an R35 GTR. It’s a work of art but took them ages iirc, was built for the auto salon the other week At least in the end the new engine was a worthy upgrade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Top secret took an R32 GTR and put in the engine, transmission and full interior from an R35 GTR. It’s a work of art but took them ages iirc, was built for the auto salon the other week That was at the last TAS (won best car) - not just this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_bandido Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I always thought a V12 turbo that could run on one bank when pootling about would be cool for a Supra. Coupled with an 8 speed that would probably be quite a versatile car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I always thought a V12 turbo that could run on one bank when pootling about would be cool for a Supra. Coupled with an 8 speed that would probably be quite a versatile car. Interesting thought, but a nightmare to engineer. You'd need to factor in the ability to shut down both banks so you don't get uneven wear, and a management system to switch between them. The R8's V10, for example, only does this in the higher gears - presumably because it would require far more precision at lower speeds in order to work seamlessly. If Audi can't do it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_bandido Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 The Toyota V12 shuts down one bank on the standard ECU. That's what got me thinking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 The Toyota V12 shuts down one bank on the standard ECU. That's what got me thinking about it. Just one bank, or can it shut both down? I didn't know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_bandido Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 It's capable of shutting down either if it detects an error, it's got two ECUs from the factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I'd be happy if they just started a heritage program like Nissan , so we have access to parts Mazda do a nice Factory restore on the Mx5 https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-cars/a23487935/first-factory-restored-mazda-mx-5-miata/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 It's capable of shutting down either if it detects an error, it's got two ECUs from the factory. Ace. Must do some reading up on that motor. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 I'd be happy if they just started a heritage program like Nissan , so we have access to parts Mazda do a nice Factory restore on the Mx5 https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-cars/a23487935/first-factory-restored-mazda-mx-5-miata/ So companies must still keep their old equipment to do things like this. Good to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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