Bobbeh Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 The overhead ones have gone, been replaced with the ones mounted at the side, the HIDECS 3 in the photo In that instance I would presume they're on with the 10% rule.. but the side ones I've seen always flash when they go off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 In that instance I would presume they're on with the 10% rule.. but the side ones I've seen always flash when they go off. To be honest i can't say i noticed any flashes but then would you if your attention is looking forward ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Yes you would notice. I went through one in Essex on the M25 when they were in trial phase and it went off, but I didnt hear anything, even during the day you would notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 (edited) .......... Edited September 26, 2018 by Dnk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Ta certainly pays to know your area! I will have a look at the app ta I used to have an actual TomTom and paid £50 for exact same service, but often I could get home in traffic before it loaded the traffic up. The app is so much better and dare I say it a lot better than google sometimes with traffic, always diverts me if there is a diversion faster long before I hit the traffic. And it has saved me twice with a mobile camera on a road I know there are no fixed ones, it alerted me and then further up the road there the c#nt in the van was sitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 Yes you would notice. I went through one in Essex on the M25 when they were in trial phase and it went off, but I didnt hear anything, even during the day you would notice. Okay that's promising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 The overhead ones have gone, been replaced with the ones mounted at the side, the HIDECS 3 in the photo those still flash. 2 Units, 1 camera 1 flash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukeyboy2k Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 I gather the 'always active' or 'only on when lower speed limits apply' is dependent upon which force is maintaining the system - it varies I believe. Information is not always forthcoming. I don't think they need to flash to catch an offending driver. I was sent a NIP for doing 60 when a 50 was displayed and I am 99.9% sure there was no flash. I've attended the (Smart) Motorways Awareness Course, and the instructors advised me the HADECS cameras were always active, and that there is no speed tolerance. They are active 24 hours a day, 365 days per year, and work whether it is light or dark, and in all weather conditions. Clearly some inaccuracy (BS) in that statement with regards to being no speed tolerance, as I see many, many of the same cars flouting the rules on a daily basis - how are they not banned already?! I have no reason to dispute the rest though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted September 27, 2018 Author Share Posted September 27, 2018 I gather the 'always active' or 'only on when lower speed limits apply' is dependent upon which force is maintaining the system - it varies I believe. Information is not always forthcoming. I don't think they need to flash to catch an offending driver. I was sent a NIP for doing 60 when a 50 was displayed and I am 99.9% sure there was no flash. I've attended the (Smart) Motorways Awareness Course, and the instructors advised me the HADECS cameras were always active, and that there is no speed tolerance. They are active 24 hours a day, 365 days per year, and work whether it is light or dark, and in all weather conditions. Clearly some inaccuracy (BS) in that statement with regards to being no speed tolerance, as I see many, many of the same cars flouting the rules on a daily basis - how are they not banned already?! I have no reason to dispute the rest though. Thanks for the info, they must have some tolerance but how much who knows, i'll wait and see what pops through the door and deal with it then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted September 27, 2018 Author Share Posted September 27, 2018 I've just read this so god knows but seems very unfair if there is no tolerance at all The HADECS 3 (Highway Agency Digital Enforcement Camera System 3) also has zero tolerance built in as standard. So a driver who strays over the speed limit by as little as one mph will now face a £100 fine, three penalty points on their licence, and increased car insurance premiums for the next five years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 I don't believe that for a minute... I would imagine its a scare tactic, its up to the local force to implement that kind of policy, I would always stick to the speed limit when signs are illuminated, but 1mph is a bit OTT. I know Essex police tried to enforce something along these lines around some school areas, and came in for a fair bit of criticism - dont think it lasted long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 It's also impossible to enforce as well. Even worn tyres could throw a speedo out by 1mph, that's half the reason there are tolerances in the first place. Car speedos tend to read lower than true speed so if you're done for exceeding the speed limit by 1mph, you'll have been under the impression you were going much faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 I've just read this so god knows but seems very unfair if there is no tolerance at all The HADECS 3 (Highway Agency Digital Enforcement Camera System 3) also has zero tolerance built in as standard. So a driver who strays over the speed limit by as little as one mph will now face a £100 fine, three penalty points on their licence, and increased car insurance premiums for the next five years. Rubbish. This is a scare story. No legislation has changed and it'd need to for this to become a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) Rubbish. This is a scare story. No legislation has changed and it'd need to for this to become a thing. I can’t see this ever being a thing as it would lead to car companies being sued if there Speedos aren’t pin point accurate. Edited September 27, 2018 by Tyson (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted September 28, 2018 Author Share Posted September 28, 2018 (edited) I'm going to check my BMW's speedo against the sat/nav today and see how far out it really is, hopefully lots in my favour Edited September 28, 2018 by Dnk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
and1c Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 I can’t see this ever being a thing as it would lead to car companies being sued if there Speedos aren’t pin point accurate. Definately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted September 28, 2018 Author Share Posted September 28, 2018 (edited) I can’t see this ever being a thing as it would lead to car companies being sued if there Speedos aren’t pin point accurate. Or as suggested they all read low then they're covered Edited September 28, 2018 by Dnk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitbox Junkie Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 most speedos are 3mph over gps speed. Did you see the 3 cameras flash? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Think the south yorkshire rules are 10% +2mph So getting in trouble would be 79mph. Ill let somebody else test it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted September 28, 2018 Author Share Posted September 28, 2018 most speedos are 3mph over gps speed. Did you see the 3 cameras flash? I didn't see any flash but it was a bright sunny day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakey Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 (edited) Think the south yorkshire rules are 10% +2mph So getting in trouble would be 79mph. Ill let somebody else test it though. We will soon find out, I just got flashed on Friday an on an unmarked gantry m25.... was under that speed by a considerable amount, berrg! Edited September 29, 2018 by Sakey included quote (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted September 29, 2018 Author Share Posted September 29, 2018 My speedo is 2-3 mph higher than gps speed so a bit in my favour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 The older in years lady, hogging the middle lane, texting on her phone,and swerving about ,when i was driving on the m5 to cornwall was fine as she was only doing 70 mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 The older in years lady, hogging the middle lane, texting on her phone,and swerving about ,when i was driving on the m5 to cornwall was fine as she was only doing 70 mph. Middle lane or outside lane hoggers do my head in worse than tailgaters and speeders. for me they have to be up there as the worst on the road. Not talking about people going at a steady speed and consistently overtaking and no point moving over, but the ones that there is sod all in front of them, or there is more than enough room in front to pull over for a spell before having to over take again. They mofo's cause frustration, accidents, traffic jams as clogging the use of one or more lanes as people respecting the no undertaking rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilkinson Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Think the south yorkshire rules are 10% +2mph So getting in trouble would be 79mph. Ill let somebody else test it though. As Rick says the national standard approved by ACPO, or NPCC as they are now called, is 10% +2. It's a recommendation only, but was implemented for a reason following case law on the enforcement of speeding offences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.