tayr Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Hi All, Time for the baby to go - will P/X against Black TT6 2010 E92 M3 Alpine Edition - DCT 42,000 Miles * FULL BMW Main Dealer History + file of receipts + all MOTs * Main dealer health check (can send over no problem) * Documented "run-in" service * Security updates * All handbooks and keys * Big spec including highly desirable upgrade GTS Gearbox Software giving quicker and smoother gear changes * Latest 2017 Maps 3D * DVD in motion (not recommended for UK use) * Latest iDrive * Hi-end BMW Individual Sound system - (Absolutely Fantastic) * Matching Conti Sport Premium Tyres 5mm remaining all round * New ATE front discs and pads approx. 6 Months ago *LCI Rear Lights *Never been tracked *Always treated with respect and warmed up correctly *2 Careful previous owners *Paintwork immaculate - No dents, no scratches *Tasteful High Kick Spoiler (Can include original in sale) *Uprated Halo Angel Eyes Next service due in September which is Brake Fluid and Oil. BMW has quoted £445.00 for this which can be verified by their bmw-service website. I have taken this into consideration in the price. Vehicle options include; L812A-National version England / Ireland S1CBA-CO2 package S1CDA-Brake Energy Regeneration S230A-Extra package, EU-specific S2MDA-M Drive S2MKA-M double-clutch transmiss. w/Drivelogic S2MTA-BMW LA wheel, dual spoke 220 S2PAA-Wheel bolt retainer S302A-Alarm system S313A-Fold-in outside mirror S423A-Floor mats, velours S428A-Warning triangle and first aid kit S431A-Interior mirror with automatic-dip S441A-Smoker package S459A-Seat adjuster, electric, with memory S470A-Isofix-System S490A-Adjuster, backrest width S494A-Seat heating driver/passenger S4MYA-Int.trim,leather,carbon struct.,black S502A-Headlight cleaning system S508A-Park Distance Control (PDC) S521A-Rain sensor S522A-Xenon Light S524A-Adaptive Headlights S534A-Automatic air conditioning S540A-Cruise control S563A-Light package S609A-Navigation system Professional S612A-BMW Assist S615A-Expanded BMW Online Information S616A-BMW Online S620A-Voice control S633A-Preparation, mobile phone, Business S694A-Provisions for BMW 6 CD changer S698A-Area-Code 2 for DVD S6AAA-BMW TeleServices S6ABA-Control for Teleservices S6FLA-USB/Audio interface S752A-Individual audio system S760A-High gloss shadow line S761AI-ndividual sunshade glazing S775A-Headlining anthracite S850A-Dummy-SALAPA S853A-Language version English S863A-Retailer Directory Europe S877A-Delete cross-pattern operation S880A-On-board vehicle literature English S8S2A-Coding alarm signal S8S3A-Automatic locking when driving off S8SCA-Telematics access request,country-spec. S8SMA-Car ident. number visible from outside S8SPA-Control unit COP S938A-Individual series S940A-special equipment BMW Individual I've probably missed a fair bit so please send me a PM if you've got any questions. Plate not included Car located in Hampshire. £22,995 ONO https://img.pistonheads.com/MediumSize/bmw/e90-m3-07-13/m3-alpine/bmw-e90-m3-07-13-m3-alpine-S3524935-1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Jesus thats a bloody nice car, your only down the road too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Having one of these fine beasts I can tell you that this is a great car to buy and own! Only question would be if the throttle actuators have been replaced or not? The rod bearings should be fine but it's worth getting an oil sample checked over. Gorgeous car, great spec, proper price. GLWS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tayr Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 Having one of these fine beasts I can tell you that this is a great car to buy and own! Only question would be if the throttle actuators have been replaced or not? The rod bearings should be fine but it's worth getting an oil sample checked over. Gorgeous car, great spec, proper price. GLWS. Actuators haven't been done but they really don't need doing until and if they go. Kinda seems pointless to replace something that isn't broken. In regards to RB, as a low mileage well looked after car i can't see these being an issue. I did do an oil sample a couple thousand miles ago which came back all clear. Thanks for the kind words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Agree on both counts - mine's just hit 60k with no signs of rod bearing wear as yet - most are done as a prevention rather than a cure. Regular oil sampling will put any owner's mind at rest. ripped_fear - get it bought - best move I ever made getting mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Agree on both counts - mine's just hit 60k with no signs of rod bearing wear as yet - most are done as a prevention rather than a cure. Regular oil sampling will put any owner's mind at rest. ripped_fear - get it bought - best move I ever made getting mine! I think your best move was following me to the petrol station.... Lovely machines, as stated above, most common issue is the throttle actuators. H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I think your best move was following me to the petrol station.... H. A real 20 pence 50 pence moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Regular oil sampling will put any owner's mind at rest. Or suddenly give them the impetus to get rid quick. I agree, lovely cars, but the engines sound like a bloody time bomb to me as they get older and BMW service prices scare me. Vicki's i30 is getting a full main dealer 60k service for the same price as brake and oil change on this. As I understand it an oil sample is only as good as when it was taken, do we have any indication of the time between between finding metal in the oil and failure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 m3 cutters is the best resource for anything M3 related and has a lot on rod bearing failure and has a good classifieds section to. The rod bearing issue is a common fault but also fairly uncommon which must mean the car overall is pretty reliable. Some discussion on whether using a thinner 40 grade oil helps as the thick 60 weight OE spec oil on cold startup could be too thick for the tight race spec bearing tolerances. Lots of background reading spread widely on the internet available on this for anyone interested. Seems also a lot of owners ignore the 12k BMW service interval and change oil at 6,000 mile intervals to try to avoid any bearing issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Or suddenly give them the impetus to get rid quick. I agree, lovely cars, but the engines sound like a bloody time bomb to me as they get older and BMW service prices scare me. Vicki's i30 is getting a full main dealer 60k service for the same price as brake and oil change on this. As I understand it an oil sample is only as good as when it was taken, do we have any indication of the time between between finding metal in the oil and failure? They're not a time-bomb at all, you're just listening to the usual internet scare-mongering which has lined the pockets of many 'specialists'. Add to that that most of these failures have been in the US as well and only a very small number in the UK. Any car that is ragged from cold will eventually give up and these cars are no different - abuse leads to failure. I'm sure none of you guys drive your Supras flat out from cold without warming the old girl up first - the M3s are no different. The rod bearings were uprated from about 2010 as they can be susceptible to premature wear but many earlier cars with high miles can show no signs of premature bearing wear - it's predominantly down to user abuse. It's the same with women! Anyway, best of luck with the sale OP, the value of these NA V8s will only go one way over the next few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 The rod bearings were uprated from about 2010 as they can be susceptible to premature wear but many earlier cars with high miles can show no signs of premature bearing wear - it's predominantly down to user abuse. Interesting, thanks Ellis. I guess so long as you know the owner or have evidence of pampering like this one for sale here that helps massively. Unfortunately I've known plenty of people with lots of money that lease M3's and rag the hell out of them - they don't care as they have a warranty and are handing it back after three years anyway. But you can say that about any vehicle so as always - check the previous owner and history logs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 It all come down to history check. A stamped up service book, though these are going more to manufacturer online records now. So its going more to keeping hold of your invoices for work and servicing done in the future. Then all those old MOT certificates. This car is low mileage, only did 18k in its first three years according to the MOT history so its unlikely to be a ragged every day leased car. The DVLA does say there is one BMW safety recall still outstanding for the vehicle though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 This makes very interesting reading with regard to the rod bearing issue and is the best explanation i've found that answers why some engines have issues and some don't https://arperformance.co.uk/bmw-m3-m5-s65-s85-bearings-uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tayr Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 It all come down to history check. A stamped up service book, though these are going more to manufacturer online records now. So its going more to keeping hold of your invoices for work and servicing done in the future. Then all those old MOT certificates. This car is low mileage, only did 18k in its first three years according to the MOT history so its unlikely to be a ragged every day leased car. The DVLA does say there is one BMW safety recall still outstanding for the vehicle though. Indeed there is, i had it booked in to do 2 at the same time, and they told me both were done. Appears they couldn't do the other one as they were waiting for parts. I could do this but the car is currently SORN as not being used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossco Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Good link that DNK. Probably the only true article out there when it comes to this issue. I'm now in an S85 V10 and it's previous owner had a 13K repair bill after the engine suffered a failure. To be fair they took the opportunity to have other jobs done hence the final bill. That said, Ellis hit the nail on the head and if the car has been looked after, you're good to go. All the scaremongering comes from the same people who just so happen to offer a repair service and after taking the best part of 2k out of your pocket, they'll tell you how lucky you were and how you "caught it just in time". Back to the advert..... Looks a quality car this. I miss mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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