Bobbeh Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 It's likely the first 300 will be 'launch edition' cars of a very high specification. They're the ones to buy if you're thinking long-term... Sounds good, if only there was some information about the specification you'd be buying!! Actually use this and you'll get a good idea (with prices) https://www.bmw.co.uk/configurator#/Z4PA/S02TB/G29/esl/new/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Sounds good, if only there was some information about the specification you'd be buying!! Actually use this and you'll get a good idea (with prices) https://www.bmw.co.uk/configurator#/Z4PA/S02TB/G29/esl/new/ £53.5k fully spec’d up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_bandido Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 That's a long way to an lc500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 340 bhp for the Z4, I wonder what difference the Toyota turbo will have here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazuk Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 £53.5k fully spec’d up Fully spec that's cheap for a brand new car allot of people on here expected 60-70k ? So few years old they will be in the 40's not bad considering people are asking 30-35k for a 24 year old supra with no doubt worn suspension and rust etc .I take it these will have the Toyota 5 year standard warranty as well. 340 bhp for the Z4, I wonder what difference the Toyota turbo will have here. Does anyone know what engine code it has? Some of these N series engines are forged from bmw crankshaft connecting rods and mahle supplied the pistons, going to be interesting when someone does bpu on the first supra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Fully spec that's cheap for a brand new car allot of people on here expected 60-70k ? So few years old they will be in the 40's not bad considering people are asking 30-35k for a 24 year old supra with no doubt worn suspension and rust etc .I take it these will have the Toyota 5 year standard warranty as well. Does anyone know what engine code it has? Some of these N series engines are forged from bmw crankshaft connecting rods and mahle supplied the pistons, going to be interesting when someone does bpu on the first supra. For that spec, it’s pretty poor. I’d say it’s 10k overpriced.. a focus RS will outperform this for less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 You gotta pay to be on the hype train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilkinson Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Focus RS mk3 did a lap of the nurbergring in 8.06, so only 11 secs behind Z4, which is the only benchmark comparison we have for the new Supra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo11 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Does anyone know what engine code it has? Some of these N series engines are forged from bmw crankshaft connecting rods and mahle supplied the pistons, going to be interesting when someone does bpu on the first supra. N48 I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Taking deposits without even showing us what it really looks like? The hype has gone on forever and I read the other day it’s only 300hp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelboyne Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Taking deposits without even showing us what it really looks like? The hype has gone on forever and I read the other day it’s only 300hp? And no manual ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_bandido Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Am I the only one who does not give a shit that there isn't a manual option? An 8 speed auto will outperform a 6 speed manual in every instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Am I the only one who does not give a $#@! that there isn't a manual option? An 8 speed auto will outperform a 6 speed manual in every instance. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Apologies if i missed it but any info on how heavy its going to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManwithSupra Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Apologies if i missed it but any info on how heavy its going to be Supposed to be around 1500kg or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Supposed to be around 1500kg or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 No manual and only approx 340hp (Z4 power) in 2018 for over £50k is appalling. BMW well overvalue thier brand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo11 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 No manual and only approx 340hp (Z4 power) in 2018 for over £50k is appalling. BMW well overvalue thier brandThat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Just to compare, The new mustang fully spec’d up is 49k with magnaride, 444bhp and none of that digital engine noise crap. The interior is much nicer now too so honestly it’s a better car for less money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelboyne Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Am I the only one who does not give a $#@! that there isn't a manual option? An 8 speed auto will outperform a 6 speed manual in every instance. Outperform the driving experience, never imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_bandido Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Outperform the driving experience, never imo. Have you driven something with a decent paddle shift? And by that I mean properly thrashed it round some corners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazuk Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Just to compare, The new mustang fully spec’d up is 49k with magnaride, 444bhp and none of that digital engine noise crap. The interior is much nicer now too so honestly it’s a better car for less money And it handles like a boat just a big v8 that’s about it and a fully spec one weights 1800kg , Tada said supra is just under 1500kg, given the below should be very well balanced and good handling and we all know bpu on turbo engines gives good results so probably will see it over 400hp anyway. So 50/50 weight body as rigid as a LFA lower centre of gravity than a gt86 weight adjustable steering Gearbox shift settings adaptive damper settings electric diff ratio control settings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilkinson Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 And it handles like a boat just a big v8 that’s about it and a fully spec one weights 1800kg , Tada said supra is just under 1500kg, given the below should be very well balanced and good handling and we all know bpu on turbo engines gives good results so probably will see it over 400hp anyway. So 50/50 weight body as rigid as a LFA lower centre of gravity than a gt86 weight adjustable steering Gearbox shift settings adaptive damper settings electric diff ratio control settings Handling needs to balanced with power, or you end up with the GT86. The benchmark was the 718 Cayman. I will wait and see how it compares when Toyota build up the courage to finally tell us what they will be producing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_bandido Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 And it handles like a boat just a big v8 that’s about it and a fully spec one weights 1800kg , Tada said supra is just under 1500kg, given the below should be very well balanced and good handling and we all know bpu on turbo engines gives good results so probably will see it over 400hp anyway. So 50/50 weight body as rigid as a LFA lower centre of gravity than a gt86 weight adjustable steering Gearbox shift settings adaptive damper settings electric diff ratio control settings Again, just want to stress I do not think this has an electronically variable diff ratio. It is the lock settings that are controlled. There is no point in a variable ratio unless you want to multiply the number of gears in the gearbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazuk Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Again, just want to stress I do not think this has an electronically variable diff ratio. It is the lock settings that are controlled. There is no point in a variable ratio unless you want to multiply the number of gears in the gearbox. Tada did say the diff would be something new, from that link ric posted "eight-speed paddleshift auto and an active differential (an e-motor wind the diff’s ratio up and down via a reduction gear)” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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