jackso11 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I am going to flush out the gearbox fully, change the filter and refill with new toyota fluid. Couple of quick questions that I have been searching for and can't find definative answers to that i thought it would help future searchers to have in one place too: 1) How much fluid should I have on stand by to do the flush? Not how many L does the box hold, but how many will I need to get it fully flushed through. 2) What order should I do it in? I don't really want to take the sump off, change the filter, then pump all the old crap out through the new filter while doing the flush. But equally I don't want to flush it all through then lose 2L or so taking the sump off to change the filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Everything you need to know and more is in this group - http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/group.php?groupid=57 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackso11 Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 Ok so the answer to my first question is in there in a thread I had actually bookmarked but not fully read. For anyone else who finds this... 'pour 6.5 litres N/A (total volume 7.2 litres) or 7.5 litres T.T. (total volume 8.2 litres)' - then drop out the old 6L or so and top up, so probably 10L will be needed on standby. But what about my second question? Is there no way to change the filter without losing a couple of litres of clean oil? i.e. Do the oil flush and then take the sump off and change the filter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 You drain the sump and drop it before anything to replace the filter. Once its all back on and cured. Overfill the box with a good few litres...flush it at the cooling line then fillto the full mark. DavidP has it all on his group page. Dont go into thinking its going to be a simple task. Because its not and very time consuming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) Transmission strainer change and full flush instructions. http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/group.php?discussionid=188&pp=10&page=1&do=discuss For dipsticks who can't cope with information that is presented more than one sentence at a time. Here translated into 37 text grunts. Things 1. 10 litres of ATF Dexron III 2. New strainer 3. Tube of RTV 4. Brake cleaner 5. 10mm & 14mm socket & ratchet 6. Hammer 7. Broad wood chisel or proper sump removal tool 8. Torque wrench 9. Drip tray 10. Jack 11. Pliers or screwdriver? to undo fluid line 12. Roll of mechanics wipe 13. Bucket 14. Level hard-standing 15. 4 x axle stands How to 1. Jack up car 2. Use 14mm spanner to undo drain plug 3. Drain old ATF into drip tray 4. Use 10mm socket & ratchet to undo pan bolts 5. Use hammer and wood chisel or proper tool to break seal on pan 6. Clean magnets with mechanics wipe 7. Good idea to remove solenoids and clean them with brake cleaner whilst you are in there 8. Good idea to check torque on valve-body bolts whilst you're in there, 7ftlb 9. Use 10mm socket for changing strainer and checking valve-body bolts 10. Use torque wrench to tighten strainer bolts to 7ftlb 11. Use chisel to clean off old RTV 12. Use brake cleaner to degrease sealant faces 13. Apply a 6mm bead of RTV to sump 14. Replace sump bolts torqued to 6.5ftlb 15. Pour 6.5 litres of ATF into dipstick tube 16. Remove ATF "flow" line from cooler and hold over bucket 17. Start engine and run until fresh fluid can be seen 18. Have an assistant pour in another litre whilst the engine is running 19. Turn off engine and reconnect pipe 20. Top up transmission to the correct mark on dipstick 21. Text your mum and ask her to wipe your arse 22. Sign up for an evening class in adult literacy Edited March 18, 2018 by David P (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk4Gaz Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Transmission strainer change and full flush instructions. 21. Text your mum and ask her to wipe your arse 22. Sign up for an evening class in adult literacy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) But what about my second question? Is there no way to change the filter without losing a couple of litres of clean oil? i.e. Do the oil flush and then take the sump off and change the filter? I can’t tell if you are being serious or not. If you drain the old oil out then flush/refill with new oil you are using the old oil filter with the new oil. This aside how do you plan on removing the sump to change the filter when it is full of new oil? I’m not surprised David gets so pi55ed off. He needs a medal for putting up with these sorts of questions or at the very least a thank you for taking the time to write it all down. Even that is usually too much to ask as most people don’t have any manners. Edited March 18, 2018 by Frank Bullitt Spelling. (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I can’t tell if you are being serious or not. If you drain the old oil out then flush/refill with new oil you are using the old oil filter with the new oil. This aside how do you plan on removing the sump to change the filter when it is full of new oil? I’m not surprised David gets so pi55ed off. He needs a medal or at the very least a thank you for taking the time to write it all down but even that is usually too much to ask. Yea on the subjet of mrP, hes always there when we need him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) Transmission strainer change and full flush instructions. http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/group.php?discussionid=188&pp=10&page=1&do=discuss For dipsticks who can't cope with information that is presented more than one sentence at a time. Here translated into 37 text grunts. Things 1. 10 litres of ATF Dexron III 2. New strainer 3. Tube of RTV 4. Brake cleaner 5. 10mm & 14mm socket & ratchet 6. Hammer 7. Broad wood chisel or proper sump removal tool 8. Torque wrench 9. Drip tray 10. Jack 11. Pliers or screwdriver? to undo fluid line 12. Roll of mechanics wipe 13. Bucket 14. Level hard-standing 15. 4 x axle stands How to 1. Jack up car 2. Use 14mm spanner to undo drain plug 3. Drain old ATF into drip tray 4. Use 10mm socket & ratchet to undo pan bolts 5. Use hammer and wood chisel or proper tool to break seal on pan 6. Clean magnets with mechanics wipe 7. Good idea to remove solenoids and clean them with brake cleaner whilst you are in there 8. Good idea to check torque on valve-body bolts whilst you're in there, 7ftlb 9. Use 10mm socket for changing strainer and checking valve-body bolts 10. Use torque wrench to tighten strainer bolts to 7ftlb 11. Use chisel to clean off old RTV 12. Use brake cleaner to degrease sealant faces 13. Apply a 6mm bead of RTV to sump 14. Replace sump bolts torqued to 6.5ftlb 15. Pour 6.5 litres of ATF into dipstick tube 16. Remove ATF "flow" line from cooler and hold over bucket 17. Start engine and run until fresh fluid can be seen 18. Have an assistant pour in another litre whilst the engine is running 19. Turn off engine and reconnect pipe 20. Top up transmission to the correct mark on dipstick 21. Text your mum and ask her to wipe your arse 22. Sign up for an evening class in adult literacy P.S. If you try to pour in the whole 8 litres, it will come out of the vent at the top and make a mess on your dads drive. Edited March 18, 2018 by David P (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 The only thing i'd add is do it on a ramp, its a messy enough job as it is and i can't imagine how little fun it would be lying on your back trying to do it. My local garage is £40 phr and i get a mechanic and a ramp for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 The only thing i'd add is do it on a ramp, its a messy enough job as it is and i can't imagine how little fun it would be lying on your back trying to do it. My local garage is £40 phr and i get a mechanic and a ramp for that Thats bloody expensive when you have to consider drainage time and time for the rtv to set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Thats bloody expensive when you have to consider drainage time and time for the rtv to set. That's because you're spoilt, yours cost a can of beer and a curry cooked by your mum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 that's because you're spoilt, yours cost a can of beer and a curry cooked by your mum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackso11 Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 I can’t tell if you are being serious or not. If you drain the old oil out then flush/refill with new oil you are using the old oil filter with the new oil. This aside how do you plan on removing the sump to change the filter when it is full of new oil? I’m not surprised David gets so pi55ed off. He needs a medal for putting up with these sorts of questions or at the very least a thank you for taking the time to write it all down. Even that is usually too much to ask as most people don’t have any manners. This was precisly what I was asking that I couldn't get my head around. I don't think you understood from the way I worded it though. WHat I meant was do I either: a) drain the sump, take it off and change the filter, put the sump back on and then flush ----- which meant I would have a new filter in there while flushing out the majority of the old oil and therefore old oil going in a nice new filter. or b) flush the system, drain the sump (which is where I meant I would be losing 2L of new oil), change the filter and then top up again. ----- I know this way I lose fresh oil but also this is the only way I can see not flushing the old oil through a new filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackso11 Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 Transmission strainer change and full flush instructions. http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/group.php?discussionid=188&pp=10&page=1&do=discuss For dipsticks who can't cope with information that is presented more than one sentence at a time. Here translated into 37 text grunts. Things 1. 10 litres of ATF Dexron III 2. New strainer 3. Tube of RTV 4. Brake cleaner 5. 10mm & 14mm socket & ratchet 6. Hammer 7. Broad wood chisel or proper sump removal tool 8. Torque wrench 9. Drip tray 10. Jack 11. Pliers or screwdriver? to undo fluid line 12. Roll of mechanics wipe 13. Bucket 14. Level hard-standing 15. 4 x axle stands How to 1. Jack up car 2. Use 14mm spanner to undo drain plug 3. Drain old ATF into drip tray 4. Use 10mm socket & ratchet to undo pan bolts 5. Use hammer and wood chisel or proper tool to break seal on pan 6. Clean magnets with mechanics wipe 7. Good idea to remove solenoids and clean them with brake cleaner whilst you are in there 8. Good idea to check torque on valve-body bolts whilst you're in there, 7ftlb 9. Use 10mm socket for changing strainer and checking valve-body bolts 10. Use torque wrench to tighten strainer bolts to 7ftlb 11. Use chisel to clean off old RTV 12. Use brake cleaner to degrease sealant faces 13. Apply a 6mm bead of RTV to sump 14. Replace sump bolts torqued to 6.5ftlb 15. Pour 6.5 litres of ATF into dipstick tube 16. Remove ATF "flow" line from cooler and hold over bucket 17. Start engine and run until fresh fluid can be seen 18. Have an assistant pour in another litre whilst the engine is running 19. Turn off engine and reconnect pipe 20. Top up transmission to the correct mark on dipstick 21. Text your mum and ask her to wipe your arse 22. Sign up for an evening class in adult literacy This is brilliant but it gives me another quick question..... Referring to point 21, do you usually Sh!t yourself when completing this job?? If so, maybe you should get yourself a longer handle for you torque wrench Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Thats bloody expensive when you have to consider drainage time and time for the rtv to set. £40 to save you crawling around on the floor, sounds cheap to me While the rtv is setting you push the car off the ramp, leave it till the end of the day or overnight if you wish, my garage doesn't charge me while the cars not on the ramp - - - Updated - - - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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