Snowman Posted April 28, 2003 Share Posted April 28, 2003 Morning I need to get some new tyres and on investigation my rear left tyre is much more heavily warn than the right. this is always the wheel that breaks free and spins whenever I loose traction. Why does this happen? TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez sutherland Posted April 28, 2003 Share Posted April 28, 2003 No idea why this happens mate - but if it makes you feel any better mine does the same (UK TT 6Spd). I always thought it was cos all of the road crap and manhole covers/drains were in tha path of that wheel? Then again, there is probably a more technical explanation? Jeremy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted April 28, 2003 Share Posted April 28, 2003 Get the alignment checked. With the stock alignment tyres should wear on the insides quicker than the outsides, but not one side of the car more than the other. Not unless you're a bit indecisive when going round roundabouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted April 28, 2003 Share Posted April 28, 2003 no LSD? Is yours a GZ or RZ? Dont forget you will get adverse wear if you do a lot of high speed roundabouts. JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez sutherland Posted April 28, 2003 Share Posted April 28, 2003 Got a wheel alignment check a while ago, also have a new LSD - but I do take roundabouts in a rather 'enthusiastic' manner:) I've got new SO3s on the rear now - will check at the weekend if they are still wearing differently. On the wheel alignment front - the tyres always wore very evenly - just the left rear more than the right. As a matter of interest - I really rate the Bridgestone SO3s - excellent grip and they don't wear out in 10 minutes like the SO2s do! Jeremy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted April 28, 2003 Author Share Posted April 28, 2003 Don't tend to over do it too much on the round about's It's the RZ, would the LSD explain why the left rear always spins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted April 28, 2003 Share Posted April 28, 2003 Originally posted by Snowman Don't tend to over do it too much on the round about's It's the RZ, would the LSD explain why the left rear always spins? Is your car auto or manual Snow? The manuals had an LSD as standard, the auto's didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted April 28, 2003 Share Posted April 28, 2003 The tyres-on-wheels I got from Graham R were worn a fair bit on the inside edge, Passenger-Side Rear ! ? AND I'm pretty sure "I'M" wearing it slightly more on the SAME edge ? ? AUTO - TT - JAP - GZ(?) - LSD?(how do you tell?) FatS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted April 29, 2003 Author Share Posted April 29, 2003 Thorin It's an Auto. I noticed it most obviously once when I parked on some wet grass. The rear passenger side wheel was just spinning and the drivers side wasn't moving? Does this mean that the rear passenger side wheel does more of the driving that the other rear wheel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 Check your vehicle plate you need a B at the end of the Transmission/ Axel code LSD, A is standard diff, it is not model specific as it was a factor option in Japan, so some High spec cars may have a standard diff. My car came with a stan dard diff and I had the same problem, lots of spin on one wheel, and lots of unplanned sideways action too. Swapped for an LSD now I have much more even traction. I agree about the S03's grippy as hell, with RLTC empty roundabouts have never been so much fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted April 29, 2003 Author Share Posted April 29, 2003 Will check it at lunch. Cheers Terminator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 LSD will slip from stationary if there is very low grip to one wheel. AFAIK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted April 30, 2003 Author Share Posted April 30, 2003 Ok, checked last night and its a standard diff. I didn't even realise there was an option, well you learn something everyday I guess. Do most people have the LSD or am I in the minority with the standard diff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 seems to be quite a few cars out there without the LSD. Its an easy upgrade, bolt off bolt on, you just have to find one. UK spec diffs are also slightly different as are the facelift ones. My car didnt have one and I learnt to cope with the single wheel spinning, upgraded to an LSD and it completely changed the car, made RLTC far more important. Talk to Leon and see if he has any spare LSDs sitting around. Its certainly worth doing if you run serious boost. JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted April 30, 2003 Author Share Posted April 30, 2003 another thing to spend money on!!!!!!!!!!! How much do you reckon we are approximately talking, a few hundred or nearer a grand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 few hundred really, do a search and there was a discussion a while back about costs. Nathan was looking to sell the LSD they had. The LSD will give you much better acceleration out of corners and probably better straight line acceleration. But as it keeps power going to both wheels if possible then it will make the car much more prone to powerslides and tail flicks. My first run with an LSD at Pod I was used to just keeping my foot on the floor and letting the wheel find grip again, with an LSD the car started to powerslide and kept going, I jumped off the power and fishtailed at 80mph. Facing that concerete wall at that speed is scary. RLTC will stop if from doing that, some people prefer not to use RLTC but I prefer to have it there helping as I know what its like staring a concrete wall in the face and wondering just how much of the car will be left when its finished JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted April 30, 2003 Author Share Posted April 30, 2003 And I thought the back end stepped out easily anyway.......... When the next big payday comes round the shopping list will come out again then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 I picked up a low miles LSD for £300ish. It transformed the car, but as John said, RLTC might become more important on your shopping list unless you like unplanned rear end fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 Strangely enough, just noticed this on Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2413373361&category=10428 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted May 1, 2003 Author Share Posted May 1, 2003 Good find Martin and Terminator thanks for the input. I'm off to get new tyres all round tomorrow so might have to ease up on the spending for this month, but now I know if I want to go any higher on my current BHP this is the next sensible mod to get, along with the RLTC! Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Speed Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 would the LSD explain why the left rear always spins? Exactly the opposite. A Limited Slip Differential does exactly what it says on the tin; it limits slip between the driven wheels, so you can only really spin both together. If you have an LSD, wet weather traction will be noticably better as will controlled slides or drifts, as they are fashionably known. If you've got a manual with LSD then spin-turns and doughnuts are quite easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Speed Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 Martin, that diff on ebay looks interesting, but I'm puzzled by the "my mate the mechanic" bit because you have to strip one to see whether it's in good nick. I didn't realise people were talking about the whole assembly, case and all. I though everybody was a bit casual about how easy it was to swap a diff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 It is easy to swap a diff, it is helpful to have someone else around to help with the refit as they are very heavy. The stock diff is a very tough item, and not a common item discussed on here for faults or wear. Many cars used hard on road, track and drag strip are still running the original diff with out any problems. There is at least one UK car with over 300K miles and AFAIK it is still using the stock diff. Using second hand parts is always a risk. I would suggest that as long as you know a bit about the history of the donor car, and can see that the dif has not sustained damage in a rear or side /rear impact and fluid is clean and full, I would think the risk is worth taking for the difference in price between new and second hand. Mine came from a smashed car with severe front end damage but rear wheels and suspension were intact and the drive shaft and diff showed not external signs of damage. So I took the risk, if anything the LSD felt very slightly smoother than my original with 20000 miles on it. If anyone is pulling a LSD apart and is prepared to take detailed photos of the internals and inside the casing, I for one, would be grateful as I would like to up rate me standards spare to LSD with different ratios, if it is possible. From the out side they are identical, but I need to know if the interior is machined differently to the standard diff casing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 Originally posted by John Packham Martin, that diff on ebay looks interesting, but I'm puzzled by the "my mate the mechanic" bit because you have to strip one to see whether it's in good nick. I didn't realise people were talking about the whole assembly, case and all. I though everybody was a bit casual about how easy it was to swap a diff. I know nothing about this diff, i just spotted it on EBay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 CAN you spin both wheels if you have a 'normal' diff' ? ? OR, is it only POSSIBLE to ever spin the 'one' ? AND, given a 'HOMOGENOUS' surface ( ) would the same one spin first (or, 'only') each time ? Is that why the left-rear is wearing first (or not likely) ? [that's what we're actually askin'... I think] PHIL, where's the vehicle plate ? the one on the edge under the bonnet with the Chassis No. etc ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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