nigelboyne Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 I think I might know this car is it up Monaghan way close to the border, and the owner, if it's car I'm thinking of Bradley motorsport may shine more light on the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam127 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Where is Ireland is the car. What is what you mean what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Seems to me a lot of people in this thread seem to be very picky about surface rust and tiny paint defects for a 20 yer old car... But i also wouldn't be paying anywhere near 23k for an almost stock tt 6... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjs_82 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 What is what you mean what? Sorry. Where in Ireland is the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Seems to me a lot of people in this thread seem to be very picky about surface rust and tiny paint defects for a 20 yer old car... But i also wouldn't be paying anywhere near 23k for an almost stock tt 6... I agree re the recent price hikes but you can't import one for any/much less and owners/potential sellers are just pricing high to fit in with the few trader cars. Some think it's the way things will always be, might be a little bit of a bubble? But I am with you at these prices I would struggle to get my head round buying a tt6 right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 I agree re the recent price hikes but you can't import one for any/much less and owners/potential sellers are just pricing high to fit in with the few trader cars. Some think it's the way things will always be, might be a little bit of a bubble? But I am with you at these prices I would struggle to get my head round buying a tt6 right now. To think I struggled to sell my uk spec 5 years ago for 7k... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1andonlyantman Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 Yeah I know what you're saying about the price. I was looking years ago and was told a 6 speed was around 13k.... but I was recently told that importing an almost stock 6 speed would cost me a minimum of 23k but would have well over 100k on the clock, and that was a respected importer. This one has nearer to 40k on the clock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blythmrk Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 You know the saying goes buy on condition not the mileage although a mint car with very low miles is the ideal senario these are very thin on the ground and command far more than 23k which is in the right area if the mileage is correct. This car is not mint but good underneath just be aware to refurbish/renew parts of the suspension and strip and renovate the chassis etc doesnt come cheaply. I would try and look at a couple this week before you view the car next weekend that will give you an idea what is available you never know you may get to Ireland and view the car but one you had viewed may at the back of your mind. Do you have any pictures under the bonnet and the interior showing any wear etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_C1 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Yeah I'd agree with the consensus here, at least be open to viewing others in the UK before you go over next week. There is better examples out there for not much more money. And the idea that the car is in Ireland it hasn't seen salty roads isnt entirely true, if it has been used during an Irish winter it has seen salt. We might not salt roads to the extent of the UK but during bad weather all main routes will be gritted with salt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1andonlyantman Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 He gave me a video tour on FaceTime and went over the car. Generally it looks very good. Clean under the bonnet as far as I could tell. Interior has a few extra gauges on the left hand side of the 'cockpit', for lack of a better word. A load of the trim was painted red by the previous owner, so the current owner carbon wrapped it. Again, it looked ok as far as I could tell, but I can't say for sure until i see first hand. Aftermarket speedo digital Speedo on it. Actually just found a couple of pics of the interior and bonnet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleshead Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Supra owners are massively spoilt when it comes to underbody condition, with so many of the cars here in the UK coming from Japan. I hopw that some of the owners here don’t ever buy an old british, american or even Japanese datsun that’s spent time in a wet climate - They wouldn’t be able to handle it! There isn’t really anything in those pictures of the underside that would put me off that car if I was looking for a black tt6.. It has minor surface rust, easily treated and slowed down if got at immediately. You’ll never stop a car rusting if you actually want to use it, entropy always wins, but you can severely slow it with some good products, properly applied. The far more important thing for me with supras is 1- to check for accident damage as they are easily crashed if not respected. 2 - Low mileage, to hopefully put off the high cost of expensive replacement items for a bit longer. I.e. turbos, suspension components, gearboxes... etc Especially as lots of parts are being discontinued and there may well be a wait before quality aftermarket items fill the void. Go have a good look. If you like the colour, it pulls well, doesn’t smoke, no hidden nasties or damage, then it’s surely straight onto the list of potentials! And when I say potentials... look at more than one car!!! I’ll add that yes you will find a totally mint car still from Japan or somewhere else with low mileage, but you may wait a very long time, it will cost you a premium and you may end up to compromising on spec or colour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelboyne Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 I certainly haven't made up my mind, and am flying to Ireland to look over the car, not buying unseen. Yeah I've read that buying guide, and will be doing all the checks it recommends. I did look at the car you shared, and it does look quite good. I just thought that a nice low miles factory 6 speed would be money well spent - - - Updated - - - Hrm. Yeah, I see what youre getting at When you coming over is it to Dublin if you want I can pick you up drive you up to see car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1andonlyantman Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 Yeah, my plane lands at 7.50am though lol. He's meeting me at the airport with the car. Got a ferry booked home at 15.00 so I can take the car if it all checks out. Feel free to come share your opinion on the car. My mate has got a supra, so I have an idea what condition I should expect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blythmrk Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 When you coming over is it to Dublin if you want I can pick you up drive you up to see car Yeah, my plane lands at 7.50am though lol. He's meeting me at the airport with the car. Got a ferry booked home at 15.00 so I can take the car if it all checks out. Feel free to come share your opinion on the car. My mate has got a supra, so I have an idea what condition I should expect Two eyes are always better than one and don't forget the golden rule a completely cold start preferably been stood over night so no pick up from the airport! Now I am looking at the pics on my pc the underneath looks pretty good! Although under the bonnet its either been kept outside or in a damp garage judging by the rocker covers etc. I think I may expect far too much for my money:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 It would be interesting to know what colour that hks type air filter is/should be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Although under the bonnet its either been kept outside or in a damp garage judging by the rocker covers etc. I think I may expect far too much for my money:) I think underbonnet looks ok, the front nuts and bolts have zero signs of rust, bit grubby but again shows it's not been steam cleaned or prepped, ie seeing it as is? I agree with you on the "more for your money" front, prices are crazy now, my Supra buying days are over I think! will have to get my kicks improving what i've got not changing to another. If I see a manual NA at £5-6K i'd maybe snap it up, but even NA's are getting expensive now so this is unlikely. Also the vast majority will be far worse than the car pictured and so will only cost more, if you can even get the bits required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 On the strength of the interior and engine bay shots alone Id be out. But as others have said, its a 20 year old car, underbody looks pretty decent considering. But for that particular car Id say 23k is a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blythmrk Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 I think underbonnet looks ok, the front nuts and bolts have zero signs of rust, bit grubby but again shows it's not been steam cleaned or prepped, ie seeing it as is? I agree with you on the "more for your money" front, prices are crazy now, my Supra buying days are over I think! will have to get my kicks improving what i've got not changing to another. If I see a manual NA at £5-6K i'd maybe snap it up, but even NA's are getting expensive now so this is unlikely. Also the vast majority will be far worse than the car pictured and so will only cost more, if you can even get the bits required. It does look very honest I think I just expect mint or is it my ocd I really like the look of the quicksilver tt6 one in High Wycombe it’s got to be worth a look even though it’s there? I think the air filter will be green but again shows lack of service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelboyne Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Yeah, my plane lands at 7.50am though lol. He's meeting me at the airport with the car. Got a ferry booked home at 15.00 so I can take the car if it all checks out. Feel free to come share your opinion on the car. My mate has got a supra, so I have an idea what condition I should expect I have mint and I mean mint UK supra I'm couple miles from Dublin airport if you want compare it etc I pm you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 It has a very colourful interior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) I think that underside looks as good as you can expect, it's not been tarted up for sale it's been put on a ramp and pics taken. Seems to me a lot of people in this thread seem to be very picky about surface rust and tiny paint defects for a 20 yer old car I don’t think anyone was being picky about surface rust, we were suggesting that further investigation of the areas mentioned was needed along with substantial evidence to back up what the seller was saying about the car. This was to try and save the OP a wasted journey or possibly getting stung. As I said in an earlier post, the skirts and spats haven’t been removed so no one knows if the bodywork underneath is rotten or not. What is the cars history? By this I mean provable documented history on paper, ideally a folder of receipts. Has the OP seen any? Is there any? Does that car look like it’s done 40,000 miles? To quote the OP One guy owned it for years and then moved to Canada leaving it behind. His mother handled the sale with the guy who I'm buying it off of. So he has no way of proving any history prior to the current owner. It's in Ireland so hasn't seen salty roads. You really believe after seeing those photos that the car hasn’t seen salty roads?! He really doesn't want to sell it, it's not advertised anywhere The guy is only selling it to buy am r34 he's seen in Ireland. Their import tax is 36%, so he needed to secure it fast which is why he's selling the supra. Which is it? Can't get hold of the previous owner as he lives in Canada and his mother handled the sale. I find this hard to believe. Surely this info could be obtained with the logbook, failing that something like Facebook. The world is a very small place now. The guy says he's spoken to the supra specialist who told him to buy the supra, and that rust will brush off no worries. Still no word from the seller of which specialist this was. The mileage has definitely not been fiddled apparently. That doesn’t sound at all dodgy. PS Ignore me, i’m just a cynical old fart Edited February 26, 2018 by Frank Bullitt (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Yeah, my plane lands at 7.50am though lol. He's meeting me at the airport with the car. Got a ferry booked home at 15.00 so I can take the car if it all checks out. Feel free to come share your opinion on the car. My mate has got a supra, so I have an idea what condition I should expect I wish you all the best with your search We had a good chat about this, you seem a genuine guy and don’t deserve to be caught out. Try not to let your heart rule your head with this one. It is a sellers market and they know it. 25K is a lot of money to part with and if something seems too good to be true it probably is. Taking everything in to consideration the one question you need to be asking yourself is; does this look like a well cared for example considering it has only done 40,000 miles? Whatever you chose be sure to start a thread and get some pictures up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1andonlyantman Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 Right. To answer some of your questions. A guy in Ireland is selling an r34 gtr. The seller of the supra has secured the car, but will leave himself flat broke if he doesn't sell it the supra. He actually messaged me before he was sure he was going to sell, and actually took days to even let me know if it was for sale or to give me a price. He said the mileage in Japan is hard to prove, but the mileage in Ireland can he seen on MOT history. Maybe my expectations of the underside are lower than others because I came from a rusty evo, but at 70000 miles the evo was WAY worse than that supra, and 10 years younger, so to me, that looks like a car that has seen far less salt, yes. One more thing that im not relying on but certainly optimistic about after my own research is that the car is being sold on Irish plates and having the Irish logbook put in my name. This means that as the last Irish owner I will be entitled to the import tax that was paid on the supra, at 36%. The rebate won't be the whole amount as far as I can tell, but once officially exported I should be entitled to thousands in rebate. Again, I've never done it, but it seems legit. And to answer your next question, he said he hasn't done it himself and kept the money because he has recently done it on his current r33 gtr that he's selling to fund the 34, and it would look dodgy for a student (I'm guessing older student), to start shipping out cars and making large tax claims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_C1 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) It all sounds legit and plausible but I would definitely not be banking on or even optimistic about the rebate on the car if its in your name on the logbook. They are EXTREMELY picky with the rebates over here and you will need alot of documentation to prove Irish residency (proof of address within last 6 months, proof of Irish PPS number and photo ID etc.) If you can't produce these you won't get a rebate. Also the car must have a valid NCT which I'm sure it does but if it was declared off the road it may not. So just keep all this in mind before agreeing a sale. Edited February 26, 2018 by Brian_C1 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1andonlyantman Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 Good to know, cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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