Wez Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Hey All, This has been doing the rounds on other forums and FB. Here is the link to the draft document https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/671818/mot-inspection-manual-for-classes-3-4-5-and-7-from-20-may-2018-draft.pdf Here are some points that have been pulled out :- Disclaimer: this came from an FB post but it also links to the gov website so I think it’s legit. Some really good news here IMO, especially regarding aftermarket HID and DPF. Major changes to the MOT test on 20th of May 2018 Some of you may have already heard that there are big changes coming to the MOT test this May. Here are just a few of the biggest changes that are most likely to affect you. Please take these with a pinch of salt as nothing will be finalised until the end of April and will probably still be subject to change after that date. Remember it will take your MOT tester time to get up to speed with these too! So... Advisories are being replaced with minor fails. These are all pre written & approved by DVSA. You will still get a pass but they will be noted on your test certificate. Manual advisories are still being worked out but may disappear completely. Those of you who have changed your standard headlight bulbs for HID's will now get a major fail even if the aim is correct. It has always been an offence to fit HID bulbs to halogen headlamps so the MOT is now in line with that. Reverse lights are now part of the MOT for any car registered from 1st September 2009 (59 plate onwards). Daytime running lamps (DRL's) & front fog lamps must work on vehicles registered from March 2018 (18 plate onwards). Engine Management Light is now a major fail. It must come on with the ignition and then turn off when the engine is started. Brake pad warning lights are a major fail Handbrake with excessive travel is now a major fail. Before it would only a fail if there was no reserve travel. Contaminated (dirty) brake fluid is a major fail. Not sure how that will work as the MOT tester isn't allowed to remove the fluid cap. Oil leaks (engine, gearbox etc.) can be a major failure if they are deemed large enough. It seems they have removed the failure for tyres not being fitted according to sidewall instructions. Inner/outer or rotation incorrect. Any modifications/removal to emissions related devices, this includes DPF'S and EGR's is now a major fail. Where a DPF canister has clearly been cut open and re-welded, it will now fail. A vehicle fitted with a DPF that emits any kind of visible smoke during the metered test will now fail Emissions limits for diesels registered on or after 1st of January 2014 have been reduced. All diesels will now need to pass the limit that was set by the manufacturer when the car was new. This can be found on the VIN plate. For example the current limit for your diesel car may be 1.50. That could change to as low as 0.30 with the new rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safcdixon Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Looks like fairly basic stuff tbf, the dpf thing will aggregate the dubbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_bandido Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Does that mean replacing the existing catalytic converter arrangement with a single high flow cat is now a failure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 Lots have EGR and Charcoal canisters removed. As long as its passes the emission test and has a Cat I would think you should be OK, it could be possible for some older vehicles that the stock Cat is no longer available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I read about the HID's a few days ago, that'll cause a lot of fails on its own My 330's MOT is due in March Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamcole123 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Oil leeks have always been a failure of over a certain size. Tires fitted backwards... that rule will never change as a fail. I don’t think this is true. How is a diesel car which is over 5 years old ever gonna get it Emmisions back to factory quality? Pretty much impossible. I saw this on Facebook too but I saw a lot of mot testers comment and they haven’t heard of any off these new rules. Same for the brake fluid rule. It’s all a weird status. Really confusing. Such a stupid load of new rules if they are true though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 If this is all true then there are going to be an awful lot of refresher courses for MOT testers to cram in before it comes into force, I do know that vehicles over 40 years old are going to be MOT exempt from Aprill this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Oil leeks have always been a failure of over a certain size. Tires fitted backwards... that rule will never change as a fail. I don’t think this is true. How is a diesel car which is over 5 years old ever gonna get it Emmisions back to factory quality? Pretty much impossible. I saw this on Facebook too but I saw a lot of mot testers comment and they haven’t heard of any off these new rules. Same for the brake fluid rule. It’s all a weird status. Really confusing. Such a stupid load of new rules if they are true though. I agree with what you say here but then I also think it’s a really good idea. It always boggles the mind how some cars pass the mot test when they kick out a cloud of black smoke every time the drivers put their foot down. Tightening up regulations will hopefully make people service their cars regularly and take better care of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I read about the HID's a few days ago, that'll cause a lot of fails on its own My 330's MOT is due in March Balls. Back to not being able to see in the dark then, which is obviously sooooo much safer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I agree with what you say here but then I also think it’s a really good idea. It always boggles the mind how some cars pass the mot test when they kick out a cloud of black smoke every time the drivers put their foot down. Tightening up regulations will hopefully make people service their cars regularly and take better care of them. Agreed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Thank god times a million they are doing something about hids. I drive mostly at night and wear glasses. I always get blinded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl M N Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 It always boggles the mind how some cars pass the mot test when they kick out a cloud of black smoke every time the drivers put their foot down.. "Friendly" MOTs. Was behind a diesel micra the other day, the smoke pouring out of it was so thick I had to drive about 100M behind it. Had my mate check it's MOT history as we came up behind it and it failed an MOT 2 months before for that reason, but passed the next one with no advisories. It also showed that the passed test was done at a separate test center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 "Friendly" MOTs. Was behind a diesel micra the other day, the smoke pouring out of it was so thick I had to drive about 100M behind it. Had my mate check it's MOT history and it failed an MOT 2 months before for that reason, but passed the next one with no advisories. It also showed that the passed test was done at a separate test center. Thats dodgy as hell, with the clamp down from DVLA taking testing stations to court and such you think anyone running a business would be afraid to do these things anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl M N Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Thats dodgy as hell, with the clamp down from DVLA taking testing stations to court and such you think anyone running a business would be afraid to do these things anymore Depends on when you catch someone I suppose. If a previous failure occurs again 10 months after a test, that is not unreasonable. However this car in particular had only just failed, so I'd imagine if someone wanted to look into it someone would be losing their MOT licence. I couldn't believe how smokey that little thing was though. You could even smell it, probably shortened my life expectancy a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Depends on when you catch someone I suppose. If a previous failure occurs again 10 months after a test, that is not unreasonable. However this car in particular had only just failed, so I'd imagine if someone wanted to look into it someone would be losing their MOT licence. I couldn't believe how smokey that little thing was though. You could even smell it, probably shortened my life expectancy a bit. Yea happened with me and my neice the other day with a taxi cab. If it was me alone no worries. But with the dear neice i had to hold back the distance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdavies Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Don't think there is much there to scare me. My favourite bit about the new regulations is the Pre-78 rule. This means no more MOTs for the classic bikes I ride, which is great from the perspective that some bikes are only used 2/3 times a year and it is easy to forget which ones need MOTs and those that don't ( current rules are pre-60 Don't ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Thank god times a million they are doing something about hids. I drive mostly at night and wear glasses. I always get blinded I have problems with cars that are newer and legally fitted with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_bandido Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I find the LED headlights dazzle me at night quite often. I don't have a problem with HIDs being fitted to cars that have projector headlights already, provided people fit the right ones to maintain the correct focal point/beam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Is this the beginning of the end for diesel cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Is this the beginning of the end for diesel cars No. This was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 No. This was. I feel you are right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burna Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Balls. Back to not being able to see in the dark then, which is obviously sooooo much safer. It's fine, I've fitted the new LED's, they are even brighter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitbox Junkie Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just fit high power torches to the front end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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