ellis Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Probably a dumb, dumb question but here goes anyway! Off to Santa Pod on the 9th and may, just may have a crack at the 1/4 mile. Dumb question, how, in an auto, do you do a cracking start? Hold the accelerator and brake together? Just floor it? Handbrake? Whats the secret??! Easier in a manual obviously! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 you need a high stall torque converter for really mad launches.....I would recommend doing it in manu mode and flooring it DONT POWER BRAKE - Car is not designed to do this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I've tried different techniques but for me the best starts are in normal Auto mode, TRAC off, and power braking. If you beat my 0-60 time (see Sig) in a stock or BPU car you'll be doing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian R Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I've found that using manual mode I can shave off a few 10ths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I've tried different techniques but for me the best starts are in normal Auto mode, TRAC off, and power braking. If you beat my 0-60 time (see Sig) in a stock or BPU car you'll be doing well. Same with me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Never thought about doing it in manual mode, good tip guys. Look out pod here i come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 In terms of manual mode do you mean locking it in 3rd with MANU or actually phyiscally moving up the gears? Everytime i do a drag run using the gears i fluff it up being the spaz that i am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian R Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I set of in first through the gear with o/d off the knock the o/d switch when near the redline. Did around 15 runs in one day and all in manu were quicker thatn auto mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad k Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I got a 1.9 foot 60ft time there in my auto, only got 1 run on coldish tyres. I have drag radials/high stall. Irvy does well in a almost stock auto, his launches are good. K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 i power brake. with tc fuse out. seemed to work for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KARacing Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I've tried different techniques but for me the best starts are in normal Auto mode, TRAC off, and power braking. If you beat my 0-60 time (see Sig) in a stock or BPU car you'll be doing well. Me too (in my brother's tt auto). so your car was BONE STOCK when you ran that 0-60 time??? If so, you are GOOD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KARacing Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 BTW, I ran 13.88 with 19" wheels (my brother's 93 TT auto) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 DONT POWER BRAKE - Car is not designed to do this Erm yeah right.... They are designed for it...but you dont want to dwell on it for too long. The stock TC allows you to powerbrake to about 2200rpm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 so power brake with TC on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Erm yeah right.... They are designed for it...but you dont want to dwell on it for too long. The stock TC allows you to powerbrake to about 2200rpm. Sorry mate I disagree with you on that....Toyota would did not design the box to be ragged on the drag strip, its designed as road car not a dragster.....power braking puts significant wear on a number of components and IMO is worth avoiding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 so power brake with TC on?Alex was referring to the Torque Converter not the Traction Control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Slap my hard and call me Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 For me "TC" is the bloke on the left http://www.max-boost.co.uk/stuff/magnum_TC.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 so power brake with TC on? TC = Torque Converter not TRAC (Traction Control) Mikey, baby yours all you like, but powerbraking is how Toyota got a 5.1 to 60 time for a stock TT Auto. If you don't want to do that to yours then that's fine but it's something all torque converters can do/cope with... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 lol - I was a bit slow with that response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Mikey, baby yours all you like, but powerbraking is how Toyota got a 5.1 to 60 time for a stock TT Auto. If you don't want to do that to yours then that's fine but it's something all torque converters can do/cope with... Your better off getting a high stall converter for lightning fast launches....this takes away some of the strain but is a bitch to drive with day to day Now I dont want to sound like im lecturing you because im not!!! but my veiws on reliability issues are very strong......its something a lot of supra owners take for granted nowadays......everyone is after more power and squeezing everything they possibly can out of stock components (turbos, transmission, brakes etc etc) Now this is fine as long as you are prepared for the inevitable failure of these components which most people know. IMO repeated runs whilst power braking over time and you put wear on components which ever way you look at it.....and I could gaurauntee my auto box would last longer that someone making repeated runs on the strip whilst power braking.......If you can provide me with hard evidence the box is designed to take this then I remain firm on my veiws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Your better off getting a high stall converter for lightning fast launches....this takes away some of the strain but is a bitch to drive with day to day Now I dont want to sound like im lecturing you because im not!!! but my veiws on reliability issues are very strong......its something a lot of supra owners take for granted nowadays......everyone is after more power and squeezing everything they possibly can out of stock components (turbos, transmission, brakes etc etc) Now this is fine as long as you are prepared for the inevitable failure of these components which most people know. IMO repeated runs whilst power braking over time and you put wear on components which ever way you look at it.....and I could gaurauntee my auto box would last longer that someone making repeated runs on the strip whilst power braking.......If you can provide me with hard evidence the box is designed to take this then I remain firm on my veiws Well of course it adds stress to the TC...never said it wouldn't and that's why I said you don't want to be dwelling too long on the PB'ing. But, the stock TC is just the same as the Hi Stall's...just with a lower stall. It's like saying don't slip the clutch on the manual cause you'll knacker it out faster...well of course you will. If anyone was serious about dragging I'd expect them to buy a hi-stall...but Holly, the Doran's Black MKIV, has had 2835's on a stock stall auto for years (till we finally convinced them to upgrade ) and they would drag race their 600BHP Supra on a stock TC...and it would "suffer" powerbraking first. I can't off the top of my head think of any definate mention of drag racing and powerbraking killing a stock TC....there has been a few TC's breaking in the past but certainly nothing on the scale to warrent worrying anyone. Car's break, shit happens and it can be expensive to fix...it's the owners choice as to how much stick he gives his tranmission...but the stall function is there on all TC's and it allows for power braking. Hell it's a lot safer than reving up in neutral and throwing it into drive!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Hell Yeah power brake away! Just try to power brake for short durations in order to prevent frying the oil. I had one of those rare quiet days atsanta pod many moons ago and clocked up nearly 20 runs down the strip, power braked all the time, the car was running for most of the day, pulled a 13.01 runn at 116 and drove home! no probs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 13.01, crickey. 116 is pretty damn good too, please tell me it's not stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 No.... that was decatted at 1.3 bar, hybrids and a front mount intercooler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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