TBDevelopments Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) Its been a while, i've been plugging away in the background on the 2 turbo kits i plan to offer, so i thought i'd share the fruits of my labours. There is 2 kits being developed which i call the following, "BPU Max Kit" and a "Street Max Kit" The idea behind the BPU Max kit is an affordable single setup that is the last stage in the BPU tuning process, running on the oem fuelling injectors and system, and the OEM ecu with using lower boost or a simple piggyback for higher (testing will give more information on this) Its going to be priced to compete with owners who need to rebuild there OEM twins because of age or moving to a hybrid twin upgrade, but giving much more midrange torque. I plan to run a garrett GTX3076r turbocharger package with a reworked internal wastegate exhaust housing. Capable of the 450-475bhp range with near instant response. It will retain the OEM exhaust manifold with a tubular adaptor manifold mated to this to suit a single T3 exhaust flange. The prototype of this has been completed and is in thickwall mild steel, but the finished item will be in a 3.8mm wall thickness stainless steel so guaranteed never to crack. It will also come with a 3" tubular downpipe upto the beginning of the 2nd decat flange. The Exhaust housing will be offered in either 0.63/0.82 or 1.06 options although i beleive the 0.82 is the smallest you really want to go. Its a genuine garrett exhaust housing but reworked on the CNC to massively open up the wastegate port from the oem 28mm flapper to a huge 44mm flap. This is how far i've gotten so far with this, with updates coming in regularly https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22366691_1926594080937225_2499799237268839400_n.jpg?oh=5016318d603ba29d2ee48f0968dccfe9&oe=5A95E0F3 https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22279923_1926594110937222_8222829987808425359_n.jpg?oh=264e5f65ae295f791e614484880ad8e9&oe=5A6A74E3 https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22405410_1926594184270548_7286927984370970920_n.jpg?oh=f510794caad1564df4a1b701c5e22847&oe=5A647C75 https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22308978_1926594210937212_8505167890521923797_n.jpg?oh=e92f6d86824ee431fa43a37b70208972&oe=5AA3F427 https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22221591_1926594230937210_1753907351245871501_n.jpg?oh=f476a9396ae3c10628eb731493a517e2&oe=5A9D2DC5 https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22310247_1926594250937208_61966858189386873_n.jpg?oh=40481a977783ef7c2a0d748cfb7fe2b6&oe=5AA0EAC4 https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22450162_1929827987280501_2469938680965027526_n.jpg?oh=b88325b0433bc7108abc6949a26dae67&oe=5A681E26 https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22549823_1931092650487368_4075723157455063253_n.jpg?oh=b66c5694fb9a82f43e33f61d48e0a3fd&oe=5A69E5B7 https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20664720_1903514839911816_4292439938984025135_n.jpg?oh=92fc986e529d5ff5a4171f72c3f70ca4&oe=5AA21721 https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/20643180_1902647506665216_2222439738468507843_o.jpg?oh=bc46cf0bcb7aff21fee38b1d534ba814&oe=5A6150BD - - - Updated - - - The other kit is what i'm calling the "Street Max Kit" Which again is designed at road going supras, using either a GTX3582r or the larger GTX4088r turbocharger, the smaller of the 2 is well used on the supra making 600bhp and full boost by little over 3000rpm. Personally on an all weather, street supra this is about as far as you want to go. To make the most of this kit your talking about a clutch upgrade, fuelling and some means to control the fuelling. Its going to be using a extensive ported and polished cast log manifold, CNC wastegate plate for a larger 44mm external wastegate and again a full 316l stainless downpipe to the start of the 2nd decat flange. Options for this will come in both reroute and screamer pipe options. Edited November 12, 2017 by TBDevelopments (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Its an interesting option, I think I took one of my cars to BPU Max with rebuilt Hybrid turbos, 550 injectors from a Uk spec, Syvecs ECU, FMIC, bigger fuel pump etc and was disappointed with the result (440BHP), that little lot cost well over 4000 fitted so would be interested to see what this costs Good work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBDevelopments Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 well if your already at BPU so its just the turbochargers that are letting it down, this kit will be in the sub £2500 range delivered. And if required you will want a piggyback only, no need for a full standalone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudsey Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Look forward to the finished article. Be interested to see where the turbo charge outlet feeds/ clears towards intercooler charge point. Great idea though using the existing manifold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBDevelopments Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 the outlet of the turbo will clear the suspension turret then there will be a short hose to connect to the oem sidemount location, this pipe will be an optional extra as alot of people have fmic etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonc Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Nice touch if it works well and plums in ok. There is probably a big market for this as our turbos get older Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andz222 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 nice work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBDevelopments Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 thats the idea guys, then there is the Street max, setup if you want a little more before going down the route of full tubular manifold and big money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC93 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Interested in this, look forward to seeing the dyno numbers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squiffy Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 You sir, have my attention! Subscribed, and I'll be keeping an eye on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattP Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 I also like this Idea its only a matter of time before stock twins start dying I would be interested in a lower power end kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Nice I run the GTX3576R turbo (which I bought from you), even on a HKS tubular manifold this is realistically as quick spooling as the car can cope with, and thats on a tiptronic with a TRD LSD. on a manual with a log manifold the GTX30 setup would be savage. Wouldn't running such a small turbo result in a lot of surge? And similarly, a small turbo with an integral wastegate would presumably exacerbate this? This would be worth a look at re: your log manifold, nicest log manifold I've seen for these cars; http://fsrmotorsports.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=29&Itemid=87&vmcchk=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-love Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Subscribed, will be interested in the max kit, after all testing and numbers are settled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBDevelopments Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 well my street max kit is going to be using a GT35 based turbocharger with a cast log manifold after extensive cnc porting. the idea behind this kit is from the power house amuse kit that used a HKS gt30r which looking at the specs is basically the same as the gt3076r. the internal wastegate i assume you mean boost creep as this is the only thing that the wastegate would effect, but this is why i've done a total redesign on the wastegate ports of the housing, pictured above. heres a video of there setup. Tim TB Developments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Boost creep is exactly what I meant (in the middle of an essay and my head is still buried ) Was it the Amuse kit that utilised the stock exhaust manifold using an adaptor, as you have above? I remember those, think they were discontinued many years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Nice work and a refreshing approach. I am interested to see how this works out and as I have a piggy back already installed find this very appealing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke supra Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 I like the sound of this!! Great work, very interested, would this work with a VVTI engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Very interested in this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 If my twins go bang I’ll definitely be interested! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjam92 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Very interested, will keep an eye on this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC93 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 If my twins go bang I’ll definitely be interested! This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_aero Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 You d make a fortune if you made a kit for na owners which is affordable and reliable. 2017 and still nobody has done it (cheaply and reliably that is). Quite unreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprana Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 agree with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattP Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 You d make a fortune if you made a kit for na owners which is affordable and reliable. 2017 and still nobody has done it (cheaply and reliably that is). Quite unreal. Shhhh one does not simply make N/A owners lives simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
and1c Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 You d make a fortune if you made a kit for na owners which is affordable and reliable. 2017 and still nobody has done it (cheaply and reliably that is). Quite unreal. The phrase 'cheap, fast , reliable -> pick 2', springs to mind!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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