Control Arm differences

[evinX]

Just doing some research on all of this, would be nice to get some info on it all between the Pre-facelift and Facelift arms.

 

Front upper control arm - 2 variations, Pre facelift & Facelift

Front lower control arm - 2 variations, Pre facelift & Facelift

Rear arm NO.2 - 2 variations, Pre facelift & Facelift

 

Rear upper control arm - Pre facelift & Facelift are the same

Rear arm NO.1 - Pre facelift & Facelift are the same

 

 

Front upper control arm LH - Toyota 48630-19025 - DISCONTINUED/ Toyota Facelift 48630-29046/ Optimal G6-852

Front upper control arm RH - Toyota 48610-19025 - DISCONTINUED/ Toyota Facelift 48610-29046/ Optimal G6-823

Front lower control arm LH - Toyota 48069-14080/ Toyota Facelift 48069-14090

Front lower control arm RH - Toyota 48068-14080/ Toyota Facelift 48068-14090

 

Rear upper control arm LH - Toyota 48790-19025 - SAME AS FACLIFT

Rear upper control arm RH - Toyota 49770-19025 - SAME AS FACELIFT

Rear arm NO.1 LH - Toyota 48710-14110 - SAME AS FACELIFT

Rear arm NO.1 RH - Toyota 48710-14110 - SAME AS FACELIFT

Rear arm NO.2 LH - Toyota 48740-14060/ Toyota Facelift 48740-14070

Rear arm NO.2 RH - Toyota 48730-14030/ Toyota Facelift 48730-14040

 

Now as some of the Prefacelift parts get discontinued we will have no choice but to use Facelift parts. The Facelift arms have smaller bushes, but does this mean we will have to buy new nuts and bolts?

 

Or can we use the Pre facelift nuts and bolts on Facelift arms with smaller bushes with no problems? And do the Facelift arms bolt up without modifications to a Pre facelift subframe?

 

Kev

[Sheefa]

I'm positive they do bolt up to subframe without any modification Kevin. There was a whole thread on it somewhere I'll search for it. I would assume same for nuts and bolts fine on both.

 

 

[evinX]

I'm positive they do bolt up to subframe without any modification Kevin. There was a whole thread on it somewhere I'll search for it. I would assume same for nuts and bolts fine on both.

 

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Thats brilliant to hear. If i ever need to convert to facelift. At least they should go right on.

[chazuk]

Pretty sure they are different could of just been the rears but baldy will know , he had prefacelift hubs fully rebuilt went to fit on a facelift they bolt up fine apart from the ball joint is a different diameter to the hub fitting so its likely you will need facelift hubs aswell

[Al Massey]

The only difference as far as I can tell are bushes are made differently, uses different material and the facelift has an extra bit for bracing I think.

 

And yes they bolt straight up no problems as I got facelifts for my non facelift

[Mika]

The only differences between pre facelift and facelift control arms should be the bushes are different to each other, facelift bushes are more softer than the pre facelift ones. This was the information I once received from the state side. Here is some info from the Supraforums.com: http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?660890-Need-to-Replace-Front-Lower-Control-Arms.-Need-Help-)

[rider]

You cannot buy the rear lower arms under the pre-facelift numbers anymore (discontinued). I bought the facelift part number lower arms and they look to me identical in every way to the pre facelift arms. All other pre-facelift parts (front and rear) were available 2 months ago.

Edited October 27, 2017 by rider (see edit history)

[evinX]

When i come to need them ill go for facelift. Only reason why i can see the prefacelifts are going out becuase they were only from 1993 to 1996.5, 3.5 years. Facelift from 1996.5 to 2002..7.5 years. Facelift parts will be around for many years as far as i can see.